I have a request of everyone regarding links

If you are post a link please post one that is readable by all the members here. This is what I saw when I clicked on a link earlier today, but it is similar to many links that I’ve seen here.

There are may sites that allow gifting an article. Other articles may be available at Webpage Archive https://archive.ph . If you can’t find a publicly available source then quote from it extensively and use screen shots.
Thanks.

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Without it being so extensive to set off the copywrite alarms…

Judging by Wendy’s and other’s, including some of my posts, the copyright alarms seem to have a higher threshold now than in the past.

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Note that Google News lets you search for other sources. Sometimes you can find the same item elsewhere without a paywall.

Of course with rising costs more are asking for payments. Associated Press now asks for donations. Reuters plans to require subscriptions at abt $1/wk. Others seem to be following that lead.

The days of free news might be going away.

Or will it be heavily supported by advertising. Or biased?

In my area Spectrum Cable now has 24 hr news and weather included for subscribers.

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Mainstream media lies are not worth paying for. The first subscription I cut decades ago was NewsWeak (now owned by Jeff Bezos’ WP). They edited my letter to the editor to mean the exact opposite of what I wrote.

The Captain

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I think it is difficult to complain about the quality of news gathering sources like Associated Press and Reuters. They distribute news from local reporters and try hard not to be biased.

Your local news quality is determined by the editors who decide which stories to carry and editorial comments.

If you are unhappy with news quality pick a better source.

Many news sources rely on news services. They lack reporters in many areas. Its easy to focus on news from Washington DC or NYC.

There is a bridge for sale… :imp:

The Captain :innocent:

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They distribute news from local reporters and try hard not to be biased.
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There is a bridge for sale… :imp:

You don’t have ready access to USian media? I have noticed a change. Recall how, when the “news” is talking about someone, they show a photo of the person they are talking about. On the last go around, when they were talking about TFG, they always showed the worst pic they could find, with him scowling or in mid bellow. Now, they show much more complimentary pix. Of course, we have no way of knowing the things they do not report anymore. The WaPo declining to endorse a candidate, for the first time in years, is one small datapoint of a cowed media. The new nominee for FCC chair is threatening companies like Google and Microsoft for inhibiting his interpretation of “free speech”.

Steve

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Whenever I can not read a link I ask if I care what is this about.

I do some research if I care by Googling.

The OP is not the only person who can research a topic.

If I fault someone else’s news article and I really care I post an opposing view in the press.

But usually the reporters are so ill equipped that rebutting takes almost no effort. The number of worthwhile news reports really makes this thread pointless.

Last Friday I was watching the news when a young reporter was going on about something. I shock my head. My BIL said she is right. I said I do not disagree with her but she is babbling. That is the best CNN does these days.

There is a borderless thing called the WWW but most news are really not worth bothering about, at least for me. I did my saving the world bit decades ago. Now I leave it to the new generations. These days I mute about 50% of all METAR threads. I would not dare complain about them, free speech and all that good stuff.

CYA? Chameleons also change colors.

The Captain

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It’s about nuance. Once I noticed they were making a point of using the most uncomplimentary pic they could find, I understood their subliminal message, while what was actually spoken may sound neutral.

Yup. Just like many of the “JCs” I worked for. You kiss the bosses rear, while always trying to cover your own.

Steve

To the topic in general:

Does anyone use or have an opinion about
Ground News?

https://ground.news/

A news aggregator that supposedly also gives a metric that indicates the bias of each “news” source.

Example:
“Story headline” 44% left.

There’s also “Blindspot” which highlights a news item that’s being ignored by one side or the other.

There are, of course, supporters and detractors.

I’ve not used it, but I’ve thought about it.

:face_with_monocle:
ralph

Years ago I used a news aggregator but they did not editorialize. Should one outsource bias detection. Most of us know the biases of authors and news agencies. Maybe what we need is to learn to read between the lines. Steve just posted about picture biases! Reuters was caught publishing photoshopped images of Middle East wars. I caught NewsWeak adulterating my letter to the editor.

Moshe Dayan had some interesting advice, I paraphrase, “Read what the enemy writes. Had Gamal Abdel Nasser read my thesis on desert tank warfare Israel might have lost the Six Day War!”

The Captain

PS: I did not fact check that Dayan actually said that. :rofl:

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