Is the Disruptor (SaaS) itself getting Disrupted (AI)?

We may (or may not) be seeing the start of a new trend, where the disrupter (Salesforce) is itself finally getting disrupted. Flash back a generation, and Salesforce came in with a SaaS model to disrupt Monolithic Software vendors like SAP.

But now, some are arguing, Generative AI enables biggish companies to replace their large SaaS expenses with open source/free/cheap Generative AI software, either with some in-house talent or just from new lean startups with an aggressive pricing model enabled by their use of these AI tools.

Some good discussion in this part of a recent All-In-Podcast:

(Make sure you start 1:04:14 because there’s a bunch of politics and crypto talk before. The discussion on this ends 11 minutes later)

“Generative AI is essentially a enablement layer that allows you to deliver functionality” says Chamath Palihapitiya, who is running a startup doing “8090” - providing 80% of the functionality of what you’re using today at a 90% discount on price. And the other 20% isn’t far away.

Which is essentially the point Clayton Christensen makes in his “The Innovator’s Dilemma” book - that new tech comes in cheaper and does new stuff and most of the old stuff you still want to do.

Palihapitiya admits “it’s not a today thing” and that “Salesforce is not a bad company,” but it’s on the wrong side of this 5-10 year change. And then some discussion about a per-seat model will go away with a consumption model taking its place. If AI starts replacing your people, then you need fewer seats for software they use, and at the end of the day, these pricing models are all just ways to attempt to scale the benefits customers get from your products with the price they pay.

On balance, I think it’s too early to tell whether AI will hurt SaaS companies and their business models, or whether this is just some minor growing pains as the SaaS companies figure out how to incorporate AI and thus provide more value. But, this kind of mega-trend is something to think about and keep in the back of your mind as you think about the long term. One thing I do think is obvious is that Generative AI (sometimes abbreviated as “Gen AI”) IS changing almost everything - business, education, government, etc.

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There was a similar story on CNBC a couple days ago warning that seat-based SaaS could slow down due to AI. Consumption based models such as SNOW, DDOG, CFLT may due better as their models scale as compute heavy applications use resources.

Trouble in cloud computing begins to form as AI threats loom - YouTube

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There is one company that I used to invest in and the board used to follow a bit which is ZoomInfo (ZI). They are a business to business contact CRM type solution. For example, if someone wanted to contact the CEO, or CFO of another company they could use this ZoomInfo service.

From a quick test of using AI tools their entire business model is completely disrupted. Prompting, “How can I contact excutive X at company Y?” provides comprehensive answers and multiple ways. It’s already shown up signficantly in their results as they are growing single digits the last three quarters. The same company had been growing over 50% as recently as Q2 2022.


A lot of companies are looking to reduce their spend on SaaS because the budgets have gotten out of control for a typical company spending on what may be 30 or 40 SaaS solutions. Datadog and Snowflake are often talking about how customers are looking to optimize as well.

Many of us investors benefitted from secular tailwinds in SaaS and the market did not understand the power of the SaaS model at that time. Now there are some headwinds in these same enterprise markets, and the market is aware of the SaaS opportunity so it is not going to be as easy to find multi-baggers. It’s not like how it was previously where you some ~10 years ago you could buy a well run SaaS company like MongoDB, ServiceNow, or Shopify and get a 10-bagger out if it.

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So Thomas Siebel who practically created the CRM space with Siebel Systems which got disrupted by the SalesForce SaaS CRM model is now going to get his revenge with his C3.ai AI business and disrupt SaaS in return? It’s going to be interesting.
Ant

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