Just give them the Damm Planes!

Call the bank, your reality check just bounced.

That’s just brilliant, Dave!

The Captain

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Just park them at the end of the runway, engines running and the keys in the ignition.
Do this at a time when a busload of Ukranian pilots is visiting the airfield.
Their minders will then excuse themselves while they go get a cup of coffee.
As DS1 would put it: I see nothing wrong with this plan

Poland also could sell them to Ukraine “As-Is Where Is” for appraised value, receiving $100 down and financing the balance with a balloon note due in 10 years, at 20% interest, with no prepayment penalty. The sale can be conditioned upon Ukraine painting the Ukrainian flag over the Polish flag before removing the aircraft from their current location.

Then, as soon as the sale is closed with the Ukrainian president’s electronic signature, Ukrainian pilots can pick up their planes from wherever they are parked.

In this scenario, the aircraft entering Ukraine wouldn’t be Polish planes or NATO planes, they would be Ukrainian planes. Poland could even charge Ukraine a temporary storage fee if it takes more than a day or two to get the planes painted with the correct flag.

Every country in the world sells old planes, often with seller financing. In a situation like Ukraine’s, the government is more than justified borrowing - even at usurious rates. After all, they’re saving their people’s lives. Poland’s providing seller financing also is justified, so long as they can buy replacements from the US with seller financing, as well.

It is worth going into debt to buy planes in order to save your people from extermination by a war criminal. Poland knows that they could be next, so facilitating sales and purchases of fighter planes is the most logical thing in the world.

This transaction should have been arranged within 48 hours after Russian planes crossed into Ukrainian airspace. Any businessman or airplane broker could do a deal like I’ve proposed “on the fly,” using standard form documents, just changing the names and terms within a manner of hours.

Babies, women, and farmboys are being massacred by a madman. A simple back-to-back pair of used vehicle transactions is all that stands between life and death for millions of innocent people.

Who is in charge of NATO? Are they complete morons?

Get with the program - get Ukraine’s used plane purchase done and flyboys in the air.

=:o

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NoteH: Just park them at the end of the runway, engines running and the keys in the ignition.
Do this at a time when a busload of Ukranian pilots is visiting the airfield.
Their minders will then excuse themselves while they go get a cup of coffee.
**As DS1 would put it: I see nothing wrong with this plan**

I do, MIG-29’s are elderly by fighter standards … first flew 45 years ago. Access to parts and skilled maintenance may keep them flying but both may be in short supply? They are also vulnerable while sitting on the ground at a Ukrainian air base?

Meanwhile losses to the fire and forget shoulder fired missiles have forced the Russian pilots to fly higher with eyes out of the cockpit to watch for the deadly smoke trails. This makes them far less effective.

The Russians are also suffering heavy losses of armored vehicles due to ambush with a large variety of weapons including the very same Carl Gustav 84mm RR type I carried as an 18 yo infantryman long ago that has cheap enough ammo that you can practice with it up to the far more expensive Javelin and a host of others too long to list arriving from several NATO nations. All are easy to use and generally very effective.

I’m not convinced the MIGs would add enough fighting power to make the politics involved worth it?

Anymouse

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I’m not convinced the MIGs would add enough fighting power to make the politics involved worth it?

The issue the Ukrainian president is pointing out is the civilian deaths from Russian airpower. He is trying to save his people, rightfully so, from an onslaught. The MiG wont change that. His is an appeal to us for help, which we are doing as much as possible without dragging other countries into this.