Buckle up.
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Despite appearances, it s just a chihuahua barking hard. What he says, it not really consequential.
Big Family? Love the US but donât love it enough to become its 51st state?
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LOL Have you ever been to Canada? Why would they give up what they have for the United States. Just wait till you see the farmers starting to whine if the tariffs come. Also home building in the states. People do not understand what products Canada buys and ships to the U.S but they will.
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Canada is a lovely country with lovely people. They have some of their own issues, certainly, but then donât we all? Meanwhile is has a stable economy with good jobs. They did not melt down in 2008 as we did, for instance. (Know why? Look it up)
They have universal health care, cheap pharmaceuticals, plenty of energy, high wages, low crime, and a good education system.
Why in heavenâs name would they want to change that so they could become, for instance, Idaho or Montana?
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you have a point here. But doesnât matter how nice the people and the country is, the US will do what it needs to do to best serve its interests. Canada will have to go along. A bully it is but Canada will not be able to stand up really against this bully. It is just too strong.
We expect to see the effect of tariffs on products made in Canada. Lumber, timber, oil and gas, potash fertilizers, electricity, herring, lobsters, automobiles. Anything else?
You think? We have a blueprint of this from the previous time sanctions were applied on Canadian steel and aluminum.
In order to lift the sanctions, Canada agreed to some window dressing concessions dressing like stricter documentation and monitoring of steel and aluminum imports into Canada (to prevent dumping from other countries) and agreeing with the US to drop WTO litigation against each other.
The was also the NAFTA renegotiation, but that was already scheduled and there wasnât much that specifically advantageous to the US over Canada and Mexico.
I havenât seen a breakout for the cost of the tariffs against Canada. The CBO estimates the cost of all the tariffs (not just against Canada) was a loss about 0.3-0.5% of our GDP and cost about 200,000-300,000 US jobs. Consumers also had higher prices on a number of products.
Thatâs quite a high price to essentially get nothing much more than better paperwork out of Canada. âPyrrhic victoryâ is the term that springs to mind. I donât see how any reasonable person could conclude the outcome was worth the cost.
Making these types of deals is how you go bankrupt running a casino.
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Stable is nice, but growing is nicer. Also Iâm not sure what exactly you mean by âmelt downâ in 2008, but if you look at the chart of economic growth around that time, it appears to have followed the USA in lockstep with perhaps a slight time delay. And this data comes from a Canadian source, not a US source.
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From the chart, Canada has essentially shown no growth in per capita GDP for 10 years. That is more like Europe than the US. What happened? I know Trudeau has been PM for those 10 years. Is that responsible?
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Wow, the best line of the week. Thanks.
Still snorgling with suppressed laughter that I needed to let loose after all the creepy horrors of the past weeks.
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Heâs probably part of it. But Canada appears to be mostly satisfied with stability rather than growth. Of course, I wouldnât be surprised to see Doug Ford, the guy in the video above, challenge Trudeau in the next election for PM.
That poll is meaningless. Trudeau is stepping down and their will be a new leader for the liberal party. Look for one of these four.
When the next Liberal leader is announced on March 9, it will mark the end of the leadership campaign triggered by Prime Minister Justin Trudeauâs decision to resign.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-trudeau-government-transition-1.7474385
True. The question is whether or not the Conservatives (leading in the polls) can win enough seats to elect a PM.
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The polls are swinging back and forth. In February the Liberals were up and this month so far the Conservatives are. Until we get a clear picture who is running how can you trust the polls? Plus, wait till the hurt from the tariffs take place and people really start getting mad.
Poilievreâs standing may be influenced by how toxic TIG becomes in Canada. He is now running for cover. Hearing him speak, for the first time, I find him somewhat less exciting than Tommy Newsom.
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Not any more.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/05/canada-trump-carney-liberals/
Canadaâs Liberals were heading into a crushing defeat. Then came Trump.Liberals were headed for a wipeout. But after Trump ramped up his attacks, they reversed a 20-point polling deficit and are neck-and-neck with the Conservatives.
TORONTO â Before Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced on Jan. 6 that he intended to resign, his Liberals were headed for a wipeout, trailing the Conservatives for more than a year. The only question was just how big that defeat would be.
Now, the race has turned competitive â thanks in part to President Donald Trump.
Itâs a sign of how Trumpâs tariffs on Canadian goods and vows to make Canada the 51st state have upended the national debate here, stirring a level of fury among Canadians that is hard to overstate, pushing views of the United States to a new low and scrambling the countryâs politics.
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Electricity. It probably wonât be tariffed by the US, Canada will just charge us more or restrict export.
However, changing tariffs is easier and quicker than changing contracts.
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