OT: Big Bang bust?

Where is Fred Hoyle when you need him?

https://iai.tv/articles/the-big-bang-didnt-happen-auid-2215
To everyone who sees them, the new James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) images of the cosmos are beautifully awe-inspiring. But to most professional astronomers and cosmologists, they are also extremely surprising—not at all what was predicted by theory.

In the flood of technical astronomical papers published online since July 12, the authors report again and again that the images show surprisingly many galaxies, galaxies that are surprisingly smooth, surprisingly small and surprisingly old. Lots of surprises, and not necessarily pleasant ones. One paper’s title begins with the candid exclamation: “Panic!”

DB2

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This is when science gets exciting!

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Big Bang Theory debunked? Well, D’uh.

200 billion trillion stars
On one rock are a bunch of monkeys
Who think it is all about them
Then they blew themselves up

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The problem with our maths is our point of view.

Space is stretching and contracting from an entirely different set of metrics.

We just do not know what those metrics are.

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We just do not know what those metrics are.

Obviously, you are just speaking for yourself.

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Great topic, thanks DB2. Talk about inflation!

This is what I love about science and why science is so powerful. Facts drive opinions, not the other way around. We are always learning.

Here’s an article where an Experimental Physicist offers an alternative explanation:

https://mindmatters.ai/2022/08/james-webb-space-telescope-sh…

From the link:

This sometimes comes up: Could the universe have always existed? The problem is, if the universe had existed for an infinite amount of time, everything that could possibly happen must already have happened an infinite number of times — including that we don’t exist and never did. But we know we do exist. As Robert J. Marks has pointed out, playing with infinity quickly results in absurdity. To do science, we must accept that some events are real and not mutually contradictory. So we can assume that the universe got started but we are a little less sure just now how that happened.

I love this stuff!!

AW

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To everyone who sees them, the new James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) images of the cosmos are beautifully awe-inspiring.

Did you hear the one about the slice of chorizo sausage that was displayed as a fact from the James Webb Space Telescope photo of Earth’s nearest star?

https://www.newsweek.com/etienne-klein-chorizo-sausage-james…

Here is a really good article from Nature about some of the changing conceptions thanks to the JWT:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02056-5

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No I am speaking for all of us. Our point of view in our maths are warped by universal interpretation.

This is not about religion.

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Truth is stranger than Fiction = Reality triumphs over Theory.

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Thanks syke! Terrific link.

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"One paper’s title begins with the candid exclamation: “Panic!”

DB2 "


Only in the infrared spectrum.

Howie52
Panic rarely looks smooth or old.
Older perspectives have seen much of life before.

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Where is Stephen Hawking when we need him?

AW

200 billion trillion stars
On one rock are a bunch of monkeys
Who think it is all about them
Then they blew themselves up

Love this! Concise but says something.

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An old “Consensus” bites the dust. Which consensus is next??? GW?
Even the CDC said ‘Whoopsie’ today.

An old “Consensus” bites the dust.

Heh. You crack me up.

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More Unsettled Settled Science! (USS)

Covid masking and climate alarmists please take note, you might become unsettled.

The Captain

PS. The universe could care less about consensus!

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Seems to me the “Big Bang Bust” article linked in the OP summarizes some ideas and probably a press release written by a diletantte I met long ago at a political event at Columbia University (hey, I’m a diletantte and a heretic too and so I have some interest and sympathy, but for neither the scientific nor political foundations that Eric Lerner apparently stands upon). Most of Eric’s views have been thoroughly debunked, and the article was puff piece piffle published by a popular poop zcience webzine. I see nothing from the magnificent Webb data that is problematic for the main points of Hubble and Big Bang.

As for Eric, well, check him out. I wasn’t impressed long ago in the 70’s, and I am less impressed now:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lerner

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But, But …https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/africa/asteroid-crater-west-a…

CNN)An asteroid from space slammed into the Earth’s surface 66 million years ago, leaving a massive crater underneath the sea and wreaking havoc with the planet.
No, it’s not that asteroid, the one that doomed the dinosaurs to extinction, but a previously unknown crater 248 miles off the coast of West Africa that was created right around the same time. Further study of the Nadir crater, as it’s called, could shake up what we know about that cataclysmic moment in natural history.

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