That is a tragedy Steve, and I do realize there is still racism, so how do we fix that? I propose we give tutoring after school for any student that feels they need it. In every school. If they are not getting in it must be because of their SAT scores or some other reason that we should be able to ascertain. Give classes on passing the SAT and on what ever else is holding them back. While some schools may have racists in their school admissions I would think that would be a small number. But find the ones that are racist and prosecute them.
U of M gives a lot of weight to what students do outside of class. What sort of civic organizations were they involved in? What volunteer work did they do? A kid that doesn’t have time for that sort of nonsense, because he had to work to help support his family, or because he had no means to get around, because city busses are slow/unreliable, and he doesn’t have money for his own car, like kids in the burbs, is not going to do well at U of M admissions.
You will never convince U of M. They think they are elite, and only want elite students, who will become the next generation of Shiny elites. This screed has a disclaimer at the bottom, an afterthought, that they take into consideration, if an applicant came from a poor family. The shift in racial makeup of the student body belies that bit of drivel.
*We value the whole record — excellent grades in rigorous courses, top ACT/SAT scores if provided, participation in extracurricular activities, professional arts training, and evidence of leadership, awards, and service.
### Extracurricular Preparation
Your extracurricular preparation speaks to what you’ve done beyond the classroom. How have you become a leader at your school and in your community? To what heights have you taken your training in music, art, or dance? What is your life like beyond your course of studies and how do you connect them?
Show us how the combination of course work and related activities inspired original thinking on your part. What you’ve done beyond simply taking AP courses is a very important consideration for admission. It speaks to what kind of person you are and how well you might do in a dynamic, multifaceted campus community.*
Leap why would you say that? You like to accuse people of your tactics. We were having a nice conversation and now you want to start fighting. I think you know where that leads to. So let’s just have a civil conversation and stop all the pandering.
They can’t do away with it. If they do, and if they rely almost entirely on grades and test scores, they will get more AAPI students admitted then they prefer. They want diversity, not just a bunch of rich tutored white kids and smart AAPI kids.
The ideal scenario would be for admissions folks to have no knowledge whatsoever about the applicant. No names, just numbers (because names can be used for racist purposes). No addresses either (because addresses can also be used for racist purposes). No essays (because the content of the essays can be used for racist purposes). The information can be presented (by a 3rd party, maybe the college board or similar) with all the numbers: High School tier (high-tier private school might be a higher tier than a mid-tier public school, etc) to be used to weight the grades numbers. Classes taken in high school (regular classes are standard, honors classes are weighed higher, AP classes weighed even higher). And, of course, SAT and/or ACT scores. They might give information about general region where the applicant comes from, but nothing granular enough to surmise race. You do all this and then it is literally impossible for there to be any racism in the process since there is no way at all to determine the race of applicant 763675 or applicant 583548, etc.
The schools then can determine the groupings they want - maybe they want 20% from the top-tier of students, 70% from the middle tiers of students, and 10% from the lower tiers (but still just barely qualified). Some schools, like the Ivies might choose 80% from top tier, 15% from high middle tier, and 5% from low middle tier (this is pretty close to what they do today anyway).
It would also mostly standardize admissions so there aren’t external biases. None of that legacy crap, and none of that sports recruitment crap. In fact, college sports should be entirely decoupled from the academic parts of the college. You get into school (using the “blind” system I described above) and only THEN do you try out for any associated team. You can’t be recruited simply because you’re really good at playing lacrosse or whatever.
Obviously none of this will ever happen because they WANT the biases in place.
You know Leap I thought about this and this is why you are wrong. It is not that I do not want to spend the money to help people, I just want to put it to work to help everyone. You want to put it to work only to help very specific people leaving other people behind. In example You want to pay off people’s school loans where I want free state college for everyone.
You want Reparations where I want to build back our factories and upgrade our Infrastructure.
The problem is money is finite and not infinite. Until some people realize that everybody has to set up a priority. I say let the people vote on it. If a majority agree with you, I am fine with that. The problem I have is with executive orders end running around the process.
They are and will always exist. They just aren’t holding most people back from achievement. The social justice warrior draws connection that only exist in their minds
Then you are promoting racism not equality. Like I said, write checks to anyone you want to, just don’t impose the obligation on anyone else.
Most people with these views never want to make an actual personal sacrifice. They find it sufficient to virtue signal, expecting the price to be paid by others.
There is virtually no difference in average income and wealth in black two parent households with the same level of education as their white counterparts. The impact of racism in creating some kind of glass ceiling today is a myth, hiding the real objective, which is a movement towards socialism.
