Tesla confirms unsupervised FSD Robotaxis in Austin by June

{{ The test fleet has completed over 1,500 trips and driven more than 15,000 miles, all under human supervision. In a video shared by Tesla, a safety driver is shown monitoring a car as it navigates on its own. This “supervised” phase isn’t the final version — Tesla plans to launch an unsupervised Robotaxi pilot in Austin by June. }}

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Now we know why Tesla added a rear screen to the Model Y update.

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Yea my wife still won’t use Tesla, Maybe if they changed the name to Edison? :joy:

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Doesn’t matter. There are enough people that will.

Heck, I might even put my vehicle into Robotaxi service, but just enough to cover the FSD subscription and not make any profit.

Any wage & salary earnings just cause my 0% bracket qualified dividends and capital gains to be taxed.

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Possible although there is chatter that Tesla Robotaxi will not be profitable.

If you’re taking the human driver out of the cost column, it’s got to be more profitable than Uber and Lyft, but admittedly that’s a low bar.

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That’s not the real reason. Rides in autonomous vehicles will hailed from mobile devices, and it only makes sense to also add the destination address via the mobile device, and to begin the ride from the mobile device. The rear screen (first added in the model 3 update in 2024) might give status of the ride though. It’s also quite possible that the lower end/lower priced models will not have a rear screen, it is a prime candidate for cost reduction.

The odds are very low that a 2021 model “as is” will ever be a robotaxi.

Hmmm, I just thought of something. But I haven’t thought it all the way through. Correct me if I am wrong! All these numbers obviously have to be adjusted by standard deduction, but just for simplicity let’s ignore it for now.

If a single person has $47,025 of capital gains income, and no other income at all, in 2025, their tax rate is 0% (LTCG tax rate up to $47,025 is 0%) and they pay zero taxes.

If that single person adds $10k of W2 income, then they have to pay FICA taxes on it, and it remains in the 0% (ordinary income tax rate up to $11,600 is 0%). But since total is now $57,025, the LTCG has $10k of it now in the 10% LTCG tax rate.

Or is the ordinary income tax rate calculated on the total income and thus 22% instead? (rate for ordinary income above $47,150)

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Tesla tells me it costs $1,500 to upgrade my 2020 Model Y from HW3 to HW4, and there are several lawsuits asserting that since Elon has been saying that “all Teslas have the hardware for self driving” since 2016, he may have to do the upgrade for free.

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That’s right. You can fill up your Standard Deduction with pension or wage & salary income without jeopardizing the 0% bracket for capital gains. When I turned age 65, that bracket got almost filled by small pensions I’m collecting from Fortune 500 jobs I had 30 to 40 years ago.

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