The High Price of Corrupt Police Work

The Washington Post has a long form article on its nationwide review of the cost of corrupt police work and the $1.5 Billion in legal settlements paid to the victims of corrupt policing. Few corrupt police officers get fired or removed from their jobs due to strong unions, and taxpayers are often ignorant of the million dollar payouts required to keep things quiet.

The hidden billion-dollar cost of repeated police misconduct
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/20…

Disgraced Minneapolis police officer Derek Shauvin may well be the most expensive municipal employee in US history after the city paid his victim’s family $27 million to avoid a civil court trial in the murder of George Floyd.

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Disgraced Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin may well be the most expensive municipal employee in US history after the city paid his victim’s family $27 million to avoid a civil court trial in the murder of George Floyd.

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Really sad case, but George was not murdered by officer Chauvin. George died in custody.

Chauvin IS, however, guilty of First Degree Stupidity: George is prone, on the ground, handcuffed. What’s with the knee??? Too stupid for words.

Murder: You do something where you intend to kill another. Not drive when drunk, or some other ignorant-negligent thing, where you end up causing death. That’s manslaughter.

Murder is intentionally doing an act with the intent of killing someone. INTENTIONALLY.

Chauvin was abundantly aware of spectator’s cameras all around filming the action. He was NOT so stupid as to think he could ‘murder’ on camera.

Repeating: Chauvin is guilty of First Degree Stupidity. George died in custody, but he wasn’t murdered.

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Chauvin was abundantly aware of spectator’s cameras all around filming the action. He was NOT so stupid as to think he could ‘murder’ on camera.

Repeating: Chauvin is guilty of First Degree Stupidity. George died in custody, but he wasn’t murdered.

Interesting legal theory. You realize a jury of his peers convicted him for murder, right?

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Murder: You do something where you intend to kill another. Not drive when drunk, or some other ignorant-negligent thing, where you end up causing death. That’s manslaughter.

Activists like to use incendiary words.

The Captain

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Chauvin was found guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter in the killing of George Floyd.

I’m often amazed at how poorly informed people are.

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Chauvin was found guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter in the killing of George Floyd.

I’m often amazed at how poorly informed people are.

Apparently it is “incendiary” to state that a person who is convicted of murder is indeed a person who is convicted of murder.

Next up: It is incendiary to state the sky is blue.

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Murder is intentionally doing an act with the intent of killing someone. INTENTIONALLY.

Nope. Maybe it varies state by state, but here in Tennessee you can be convicted of murder without it being “INTENTIONAL”.

**To most people, the word “murder” conjures up the intentional and planned killing of another person. However, the law about what constitutes murder is far more inclusive than those people might realize.**

**People can find themselves charged with second-degree manslaughter or murder without necessarily having had the intent to end someone’s life. In some situations where police officers or prosecutors believe there is a connection between the actions of one person and the death of another, they might bring second-degree murder charges against the person they consider responsible.**

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I’m often amazed at how poorly informed people are.

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Pardon. You are not focusing on the point. I, and most, are completely aware of what came out of the trial. He was found guilty of this and this and this and…

That is NOT the point.

The point is in the act itself, regardless of the results of the trial. The act itself.

George died in custody; police officer did not murder him with dozens of onlookers watching; police office was guilty of First Degree Stupidity, not murder in any degree.

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George died in custody; police officer did not murder him with dozens of onlookers watching; police office was guilty of First Degree Stupidity, not murder in any degree.

BreBear,

In your own words why are you reaching for this?

I could be wrong, but I suspect this will be tried as a murder:

MedStar doctor hit by his own car and killed after a thief jumped in and sped off
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/09/patel-kil…

He met his girlfriend on the sidewalk, left the car running while he unloaded some packages, the perp jumped in and started driving. The Doc chased after, was run over and killed. Age 33.

I’m sure the carjacker didn’t intend to kill him, just happened to in the commission of a violent felony. I don’t think this is manslaughter, I think it’s murder, perhaps second degree.

Don’t you?

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Murder as a legal concept is a bit more complex than you portray. Check out

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/murder

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Pardon. You are not focusing on the point. I, and most, are completely aware of what came out of the trial. He was found guilty of this and this and this and…

That is NOT the point.

The point is in the act itself, regardless of the results of the trial. The act itself.

George died in custody; police officer did not murder him with dozens of onlookers watching; police office was guilty of First Degree Stupidity, not murder in any degree.

Yet, he is serving 22 years for murder in the third degree.

Pro tip: If your argument is based on definitions that no one else but you agrees with, then maybe you don’t have a good argument.

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George died in custody; police officer did not murder him with dozens of onlookers watching;

And I forgot to mention, in no universe do you get to claim there was no crime because there were eye witnesses. Chauvin was convicted because witnesses gave testimony they saw a crime. Eye witness testimony is a thing. Always has been.

I agree with you in the sense that Chauvin was really stupid to commit murder in front of many people, but the fact many people watched him commit murder doesn’t let him off the hook.

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