Well, that's one way to reduce Medicaid spending

A week or two back, the “border czar” said his people use racial profiling in determining who to roust.

Now, ICE has access to records from CMS regarding people on Medicaid, including name, address, and race/ethnicity. So, now anyone with brown skin will want to avoid going to the doctor, just like they are starting to avoid schools, appointments with the Immigration Dept, and Lowe’s.

Steve

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You never know what is going to get to removed or when so it’s better to not let it bother you. Give yourself a pat on the back because you are giving someone a job.

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Someone has a quota to live up to

[TIG] administration sets quota to arrest 3,000 people a day in anti-immigration agenda

… so one can become fair game easily:

An 82-year-old man in Pennsylvania was secretly deported to Guatemala after visiting an immigration office last month to replace his lost green card, according to his family, who have not heard from him since and were initially told he was dead.

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See? Get your papers in order.

Steve

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Isn’t that what he was trying to do? It would have been better if he had worn one of these.

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He didn’t have papers. Trying to get, is not having. A vector of “Catch 22”: if you have papers, you are OK. If you don’t have papers, you aren’t. But, if you go the the authorities, to try to get papers, so you will be OK, you are arrested for not having papers.

or is that Kafka?

Steve

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And

So maybe we shouldn’t get them in order?

Get your papers in order, before TPTB know they want to grab you. Better yet, get your papers in order a year or two ago, before TPTB were TPTB.

Steve

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Can you imagine being a Sioux, living on the reservation? You can’t even get a home address for your voter registration, and who knows if the government is going to recognize your Sovereign nation. It would be so easy to say to them, Nope you all are Canadians not Americans.

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Especially with a USian regime that has such a casual attitude toward treaties.

Steve

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He had papers which were no longer in his possession and he was promptly getting a replacement. Whether the papers were actually in his hands at the critical time does not change his status or his diligence.

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Trying to obtain papers is now, apparently, a crime.

Ripped from the headlines

Homeland Security moves to deport Iowa couple that’s suing the agency

DHS says couple lied 12 years ago when they claimed to have no children

https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2025/07/21/homeland-security-moves-to-deport-iowa-couple-thats-suing-the-agency/

The couple filed to become naturalized citizens in 2020. The couple suied complaining the agency is slow walking their application, as the normal wait time is only 8 months, not 5 years. Nowhere, does this article state whether the couple has any children, or not. The article does say they were admitted to Shiny-land on a “diversity visa”, which is now a defacto crime.

Steve

Not, the problem is lying on an application form.

DB2

The linked article does not say if the couple has children, or, if so, when and where born. Seems that would be pertinent information.

oh, lookee…another POC in Iowa, complaining about immigration papers being slow walked.

Des Moines family waits 11 years for decision from immigration officials

Family seeks action in case, plus protection from ‘retaliation’ by federal officials

https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2025/07/07/des-moines-family-waits-11-years-for-decision-from-immigration-officials/

Steve

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True, the article did leave out that information. My point was that the issue/crime was not one of trying to obtain papers.

DB2

Are you sure? Are you sure the alleged “lie” on the application, a dozen years ago, is not only a fabricated excuse to deport them? Are you sure that it wasn’t their filing suit to get their paperwork moving that attracted the attention of TPTB. who then thought “AH! More POCs that we can run out of Shiny-land”? The #43 regime had a long track record of fabricating excuses for their actions.

Steve

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Of course I’m not sure, and neither are you.

Since they’re going to court we may find out.

DB2

Innocent until proven guilty, someone said that. Could have been Kilmar Abrego Garcia?

They get a hearing? Great. That’s more than the 43 regime gave some of the people they threw in the clink.

Steve

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It appears to be another immigration hoax.

It appears to have been all made up by the family, which has since gone dark and stopped responding to the press. Here’s what happened since the story first ran in The Morning Call, an Allentown, PA newspaper.

  • Records in Chile show a man with his same name and date of birth died in Chile in 2019.

  • Guatemala says they have no record of him being deported to their country.

  • DHS says there is no record of him appearing at any green card appointment in the Philly area, and they say ICE never arrested him.

  • DHS says they never deported him, and their only record of him entering the US is in 2015 from Chile via the visa waiver program, not an asylum grant from the 1980s as the family claimed.

  • His granddaughter claimed he was sick in a Guatemalan hospital with pneumonia after ICE deported him, and that he was traumatized (after first claiming he was dead). A doctor at the hospital she claimed he was at says there is no record of him being there.

DB2

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