What has Happened to Mitt Romney?

What has happened to Mitt Romney? Could the ghost of Walter Mondale have invaded Mitt?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/opinion/romney-tax-the-rich.html?unlocked_article_code=1.908.YJa0.jIdGeu87vsGU&smid=nytcore-ios-share

On the spending-cut front, only entitlement reform would make a meaningful difference, since programs such as Social Security and Medicare account for a majority of government outlays. No one countenances cutting benefits for current or near retirees. But Social Security and Medicare benefits for future retirees should be [means-tested](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/old-and-rich-less-help-for-you.html) — need-based, that is to say — and the starting age for entitlement payments should be linked to American life expectancy.

And on the tax front, it’s time for rich people like me to pay more.

I long opposed increasing the income level on which FICA employment taxes are applied (this year, the cap is $176,100). No longer; the consequences of the cliff have changed my mind.

Mitt also wants to close the cavern of the capital gains tax treatment at death for those with enormous estates.
Because under the tax code, capital gains are not taxed at death.

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Sealing the real estate caverns would also raise more revenue: 1031 exchanges allow a real estate developer to defer and possibly avoid paying the capital gains tax on the profitable sale of a building. Depreciating the purchase price of a building, including the debt, shields income from taxes. As with the previous example, hugely profitable real estate properties held at death are not subject to the capital gains tax.

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If the rich were paying more, then the economy, national debt and social safety net would be getting better.

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Not until there is some way to force Congress to prioritize spending. I’m not against deficit spending, indeed a good part of our wealth is because of it. That said, it’s also destructive when taken too far - as it currently is. So there must be some mechanism by which it is regulated, by which Congress has to calculate the ability to pay for this and not for that, OR SOMETHING.

No, I don’t have that answer, but identifying the problem is the first step.

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The “debt to real GDP ratio”. Currently, it is screaming we are dooming ourselves.

The chart of the ratio from 1949 to 1980 is instructive of economies of scale in heavy industry under a much higher tax regime. The screwing around with it begins immediately in 1981.

As for Congress and administrations, we use Cost/Benefit Analysis. DOGE found they could not cut much because Cost/Benefit Analysis till this day is so good there is little waste.

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Mitt knows where taxes have to go. He just wishes it was not all him. His backside can pay and pay some more.

People are about to start starving. He can pay again.

Maybe. Our debt to GDP ratio is a bit over 100, maybe 130 after the B.B.B. Is in full effect. But then Japan has had a ratio of 240 for years now, and there’s no rioting in the streets, there is still food on the shelves of the grocery stores, inflation is not a crisis.

It hasn’t all been rosy either, the stock market there has been moribund for decades and their innovation is not what it once was, but it’s not the end of the world, either.

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Japan did not face a debt contagion outside of the Asian Contagion in 2008. That was not a government debt contagion. Big difference this time. They can’t pass the buck.

Japan kept everyone employed. That is their culture.

We are going to see spreading unemployment.

Look we do not have to default. But do they want to default? It is an excuse to cut social programs and lower taxes.

To a greater extent, we are being cornered economically. If unemployment rockets and deflation comes into the picture tax revenues will drop substantially.

People enjoying the K economy are kidding themselves.

It might be. For Japan, that is. Japan strikes me as being in “retirement”, they are growing older, they are shrinking, and perhaps they are spending down their accumulated wealth as retired individuals do. Eventually they may actually disappear.

Actually, the US, UK, Mexico, and Japan win as they turn to demand-side economics.

This depends on the US appetite for much higher taxes on the wealthy. Where we lead they can follow.

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Trump and defaulting

Well that was all fun and games, but the end of the movie was more serious.

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Many favor closing loopholes. Going after tax cheats seems better to me.

The wealthy are clever at hiring lobbyists to protect their loopholes.

We’re not wrestling on the same sumo ring as Japan. Japan’s debt is largely domestically owned, making it possible to keep rates extremely low.

True dat! People on top don’t appreciate there’s a problem at the middle - bottom. Classic Twister scenario playing out.
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Japan is in a pickle, that’s for sure. They’re probably a generation ahead of where the rest of the industrialized world will eventually end up. I’m optimistic they’ll figure out how to move forward.

You’ve got to appoint serious, competent people to lead the IRS, and then staff enforcement. That’s not going to happen anytime soon.

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Isn’t the USA’s debt also largely domestically owned?

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66% for the US as compared to 88% for Japan.

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Grok AI says “75-77%” for USA.

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70%…Heil Grok!

“The share of the federal debt held by foreign investors (“foreign debt” throughout this blog), whether governments or individuals, is on the decline. Foreign bank accounts hold more than $8.5 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities, which represents a substantial chunk of the publicly held federal debt—about 30%. This is down, however, from almost 50% in the early 2010s.”

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/article/foreign-investors-hold-a-shrinking-share-of-u-s-debt/

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Are the bonds in the Social Security account counted as domestically owned?

Sure, but they’re not public, but rather intragovernmental agency owned debt.

Japan’s government has substantial assets. Foreign creditors hold about 30% of U.S. debt held by the public (DHBP). The U.S. government also has significant assets, with large land holdings.

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“First, as of the second quarter of 2024, Japan’s net public liabilities on the consolidated balance sheet amounted to only 78% of GDP. While gross liabilities stood at 270% of GDP, the government also held substantial assets totaling 192% of GDP.”
quoted from https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2025/apr/what-is-behind-japan-high-government-debt

Debt Held by the Public
Economists generally view debt held by the public (DHBP) as the most meaningful measure of debt, because it reflects the amount that the Treasury has borrowed from outside lenders through financial markets to support government activities. … As of the end of March 2025, the latest month for which breakdown data is available, DHBP was $29 trillion, or approaching 97 percent of GDP. That borrowing came from both domestic and foreign creditors, with the former holding more than two-thirds of it.

Composition of Debt Held by the Public (Billions of $):

Pct Creditor $B
16% Federal Reserve System 4,556
15% Mutual Funds 4,421
6% Depository Institutions 1,878
6% State and Local Governments 1,700
3% Pension Funds 973
2% Insurance Companies 623
20% Other Domestic 5,753
4% Japan 1,131
3% United Kingdom 779
3% China 765
22% 30+ Other Countries 6,374
100% total 28,953

data from https://www.pgpf.org/article/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt/

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Interesting, so defaulting is an opportunity for the current occupants to cash in on our assets.

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