Spanish-German wind giant Siemens Gamesa has been awarded a firm order for 60 of its SG 14-222 DD offshore wind turbines, which will be installed at the 882-MW Moray West offshore wind farm in Scotland. It will be the first installation of the world’s most powerful wind turbine, which has 14.7 megawatts (MW) of capacity.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/webcontent/the-world-s-most-p…
No wonder the oil cartel is grubbing as much money from the public as they can get right now.
OTFoolish
“No wonder the oil cartel is grubbing as much money from the public as they can get right now.”
personal transport is 20% of the oil usage.
When airlines fly on hydrogen or electricity, let me know.
When plastics and 100,000 products made from oi cease…let me know.
When NG gas use ends…let me know.
“Wind power produced more than 6 percent of global electricity in 2020 with 743 GW of global capacity (707.4 GW is onshore).”
https://www.google.com/search?q=wind+power+total+world+perce…
Now, what percent of the world’s transport was ‘wind powered’?
let’s just look at auto transport -
“There were 10 million electric cars on the world’s roads at the end of 2020, following a decade of rapid growth. Electric car registrations increased by 41% in 2020, despite the pandemic-related worldwide downturn in car sales in which global car sales dropped 16%. Around 3 million electric cars were sold globally (a 4.6% sales share),”
That’s out of a billion cars now on the road.
And out of those less than 5% EV CARS, what percent are run on ‘wind power’ and not NG? or coal?
Probably less than 2%.
And of heavy trucks that get 5mpg on diesel? 0.000000001%?
Airplanes? 0.000000000001%
Ocean liners/freight hauling ships? 0.000000001%
t.
Agreed. Renewables is small now. But we should build renewables where we can to save fossil fuels for the future.
I believe they thought the same thing about auto’s vs the horse and buggy.
You forget that many materials depend on electricity for their manufacturing processes. Aluminum, steel, cement, asphalt and so on all depend on large amounts of electricity to make.
Remember that when the power goes into the grid it is blended into the TOTAL amount available for all of the end users. How much electricity does it take to make a “heavy truck”, an “airplane” or an “ocean liner”.
The Dutch built an actual country using wind power.
OTFoolish
OOTFOOLISH:“The Dutch built an actual country using wind power.”
The Dutch used wind power to pump out sea water creeping through the dikes as they expanded draining and using land.
Early Americans used hydropower (Water wheels) to run factories and grind grains. Heated their homes and cooked with burning stored carbons (wood).
100-150 years ago, wind power provided water wells across the great plains expanding the country.
Before electricity, cities had ‘coal gas’ to run those early ‘gas lights’. Factory outside of town to burn coal to make ‘coal gas’ to pipe to homes and street lights. Horribly polluting.
A million horses pooped daily in NYC. What a stench. Disease. Flies.
Then electricity arrived and civilization moved far ahead.
t
A million horses pooped daily in NYC. What a stench. Disease. Flies.
I agree it is smelly but disease-ridden? Um, no.
https://elcr.org/the-scoop-on-poop/
Horse manure is biodegradable, natural and contains no petroleum or animal byproducts.
There are no known toxic effects on humans due to exposure to horse manure.
The Environmental Protection Agency excluded horse manure from solid waste regulation because it contains neither significant amounts of hazardous materials nor exhibits hazardous characteristics.
Horses do not carry any of the 120 viruses and pathogens that create risk for humans from carnivore and omnivore species.
The pathogens that do exist in horse leavings require ingestion to create a health risk, typically abdominal discomfort.
Most of these pathogens have very short lifespan on the ground, meaning the risk of infection through ingestion is very limited.
No record exists of horses transmitting any disease to humans.
AC not scared of horse poop
What about the flies attracted by piles of manure?
Back then humans activities attracted as many flies as the horse poop. Flies will be flies. And what about the jobs that were created by the horse manure?
In the late 1800s New York and London both had issues bad enough to change the laws. Horses had to be stabled at night instead of being left in the streets which allowed for cleaning crews to clear away as much of the poop as possible. From what I’ve read London was much worse than New York.
AC there are always pluses and minuses
Street railways with cars pulled by horses were common in the US. Most converted to cable cars about 1880 which later were converted to electric street cars after about 1890.
Conversion from horse cars to cable cars reduced costs by about half. Wikipedia cable car article says–
Cable cars rapidly spread to other cities, although the major attraction for most was the ability to displace horsecar (or mule-drawn) systems rather than the ability to climb hills. Many people at the time viewed horse-drawn transit as unnecessarily cruel, and the fact that a typical horse could work only four or five hours per day necessitated the maintenance of large stables of draft animals that had to be fed, housed, groomed, medicated and rested. Thus, for a period, economics worked in favor of cable cars even in relatively flat cities.
What about the flies attracted by piles of manure?
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Bird are also attracted to horse manure!
personal transport is 20% of the oil usage.
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That is not what eia says:
U.S. petroleum consumption by end-use sectors’ percentage share of total in 2020 was transportation.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc…
Gasoline is the most consumed petroleum product in the United States. In 2020, consumption of finished motor gasoline averaged about 8.03 million b/d (337 million gallons per day), which was equal to about 44% of total U.S. petroleum consumption.
Distillate fuel oil is the second most-consumed petroleum product in the United States. Distillate fuel oil includes diesel fuel and heating oil. Diesel fuel is used in the diesel engines of heavy construction equipment, trucks, buses, tractors, boats, trains, some automobiles, and electricity generators. Heating oil, also called fuel oil, is used in boilers and furnaces for heating homes and buildings, for industrial heating, and for producing electricity in power plants. Total distillate fuel oil consumption in 2020 averaged about 3.78 million b/d (159 million gallons per day), equal to 21% of total U.S. petroleum consumption.
jaagu:“Gasoline is the most consumed petroleum product in the United States. In 2020, consumption of finished motor gasoline averaged about 8.03 million b/d (337 million gallons per day), which was equal to about 44% of total U.S. petroleum consumption.”
Nice factoid but misses the mark completely.
What percent of TOTAL OIL USAGE is from personal transport? 20%. Oil is refined into a hundred components including chemicals, home heating oil, fuel for ships, diesel and gasoline along with plastics, fertilizers, some electric power generation in remote places but including HI and AK, offshore islands, etc.
You confused ‘gasoline’ with oil. Gasoline is a subset of oil.
t.
Hi telegraph,
“You confused ‘gasoline’ with oil. Gasoline is a subset of oil.”
I do not understand what you mean.
Here is a quick page showing a 42 gallon barrel of crude making 45 gallons of various high-level products:
https://www.energy.gov/articles/hows-and-whys-replacing-whol…
Many of the products are broken down more, like here is a page showing how petroleum coke, a by-product of the above processing, to make other products.
https://www.api.org/~/media/files/news/2014/14-november/petc…
A lot of the plastic and other products like ammonia fertilizer are made using natural gas a coal.
Does that help you?
Gene
All holdings and some statistics on my Fool profile page
http://my.fool.com/profile/gdett2/info.aspx
What percent of TOTAL OIL USAGE is from personal transport? 20%.
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Please backup your dubious claim.
Jaak
What percent of TOTAL OIL USAGE is from personal transport? 20%.
The IEA says that “Transport has the highest reliance on fossil fuels of any sector and accounts for 37% of CO2 emissions from end-use sectors.”
www.iea.org/topics/transport
DB2
" “Transport has the highest reliance on fossil fuels of any sector and accounts for 37% of CO2 emissions from end-use sectors.”"
Again, missed the target by a mile.
What percent of oil usage is PERSONAL TRANSPORT?
You listed transportation which includes shipping - ocean liners, freighters, air transport of both goods and people, trains, trucking for goods and services.
SO back to square one. What is the percent of PERSONAL transport? Not including transport of goods and services…by plane, train, truck, ocean freighters, etc.
Even if you have 50% of EV sales by 2035 or 2040, that does little to reduce the other parts of transport, and by 2035, there will still be a billion ICE cars and small trucks on the road.
t.
t,
I see you can not back up your claim that 20% of oil usage is PERSONAL TRANSPORT. Until you present some credible reference showing that number, I consider your claim bogus as I showed earlier.
Jaak
Transport has the highest reliance on fossil fuels of any sector and accounts for 37% of CO2 emissions from end-use sectors.
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What percent of oil usage is PERSONAL TRANSPORT?
Clicking through to the IEA page, we find that passenger road vehicles accounted for 3.6 Gt CO2.
3.6/8.1 = 0.44
0.44 x 37% = 16%
DB2
Wind and fossil fuels are, in the long run, on their way out … solar is on its way in. Oh … and just how will governments figure out a way to “tax” sunlight?
Rich (haywool) long on free solar energy
Oh … and just how will governments figure out a way to “tax” sunlight?
Utility scale production would be easy to tax. As for rooftop, just add a surcharge item on your income tax if you have solar panels.
DB2