Europe looking to get a million tonnes of coal annually from Botswana
www.reuters.com/business/energy/europe-seeks-million-tonnes-…
Botswana has been inundated with inquiries to supply coal to Europe and estimates that demand from Western countries could top a million tonnes a year, President Mokgweetsi Masisi said on Tuesday…
However, President Masisi emphazised that all parties were committed to reducing carbon emissions in line with the Paris Agreement on climate change.
DB2
Germany shut down its nuclear energy and increased coal consumption for electricity generation.
Germany’s per capita coal consumption is 4 times and USA’s is 3 times India’s and they blame India for not doing enough to cut carbon emissions.
https://www.worldometers.info/coal/coal-consumption-by-count…
New. Clear.
Nukle er.
Nucular.
NUCLEAR!
(Didn’t Germany shut some of theirs down trying to go wind& solar? Or is that a falsehood?)
Not a falsehood.
From the Associated Press:
https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-germany-angel…
Headline: Germany shuts down half of its 6 remaining nuclear plants
In 2011, Germany had 17 operational nuclear power reactors. Now they only have three left. At the end of this year, they will have zero left. But Germany still burns a lot of coal and natural gas to keep the lights on. The German Green environmental example (Energiewende) is supposed to be the model that other nations should be following. That’s what I’m told. Its all a sick joke, in my opinion.
Its all a sick joke, in my opinion.
There is massive new spending on alternatives in the EU. Deflationary alternatives. This will leapfrog the EU manufacturing base ahead of the US.
Use your energy to get more money spent in the US are advancing these often deflationary energy technologies. Just common sense.
Just digging in your heels and laughing at the plight of the world is not all the bright.
If Germany’s energy policies were deflationary, they wouldn’t be paying nearly the highest electricity rates in the EU. Right now, Germany is #2, right behind Denmark, which has also gone heavily into the renewable “alternatives”.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php…
Household electricity rates, 2H21, in Euros per kwh
Denmark : 0.3448 euro/kwh
Germany : 0.3234
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I live in California, which is going full-throttle with more and more renewable sources of power, including battery backups. As a result, electric power rates are skyrocketing upward. Definitely not “deflationary”.
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph…
Residential avg rates
California : 24.4 US cents per kwh
Arizona : 12.52 cents
Nevada : 13.05
Oregon : 10.89
US average : 13.78
Here in San Diego county, the local utility now charges 38 cents/kwh. I see the price increases every month on my electric power bill. Not Deflationary!
Definitely not “deflationary”.
totally ridiculous, that is like saying the Altair 80800 was not deflationary in its day because of how much it costs.
You sure you are any sort of engineer or physicist? Someone aliens swap you out?
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The argument was non stop here on Tesla cars being too expensive as if the costs wont come down the batteries wont improve.
PV is one of the fastest advancing techs on the planet. Save yourself do not say it, the returns are miserable now. I know. MIT folks just put together a computer program that sorts through different configurations and materials in the manufacture of more powerful less expensive PV cells. The industry is set to take off with advances all over again.
The idea that most alternative energies would not be deflationary is just plain wrong. Stop entirely making things up.(Didn’t Germany shut some of theirs down trying to go wind& solar? Or is that a falsehood?)
You’re new here, aren’t you?
The idea that most alternative energies would not be deflationary is just plain wrong. Stop entirely making things up.
From January 2022:
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-20/say-goodbye-to-cl…
The era of ever-cheaper clean power is over, giving a fresh jolt of uncertainty to global energy markets…Relentless price declines over the past decade made renewables the cheapest sources of electricity in much of the world. In the past year, though, prices for solar panels have surged more than 50%. Wind turbines are up 13%, and battery prices are rising for the first time ever.
After years of rapid-fire advances in technology and manufacturing, there are fewer opportunities left to cut costs without sacrificing profits. Instead of perpetually falling, prices will now ebb and flow based on the cost of raw materials and other market forces…
Policy makers, accused of adding wind and solar so rapidly that electric grids have become unstable, are under pressure to ensure the entire system is more reliable — by pairing solar with batteries, for example, or keeping aging nuclear plants running for longer. “From now on, what’s going to make the difference around the expansion of solar and wind is not going to be costs — how low can you go? — but value,” said Edurne Zoco, executive director of clean technology and renewables at research firm IHS Markit Ltd.
DB2
https://news.mit.edu/2022/ai-perovskite-solar-manufacturing-…
Headline and subheadline:
Engineers enlist AI to help scale up advanced solar cell manufacturing
Perovskite materials would be superior to silicon in PV cells, but manufacturing such cells at scale is a huge hurdle. Machine learning can help.
Snippet
Perovskites are a family of materials that are currently the leading contender to potentially replace today’s silicon-based solar photovoltaics. They hold the promise of panels that are far thinner and lighter, that could be made with ultra-high throughput at room temperature instead of at hundreds of degrees, and that are cheaper and easier to transport and install. But bringing these materials from controlled laboratory experiments into a product that can be manufactured competitively has been a long struggle.
DB2,
Would you say crude oil went up in price faster than the total cost of a battery? Percentage wise?
You are not making your own case.
Germany shut down its nuclear energy and increased coal consumption for electricity generation.
Germany’s per capita coal consumption is 4 times and USA’s is 3 times India’s and they blame India for not doing enough to cut carbon emissions.
Playing fun with numbers, the worst offender using per capita is Australia … even though their total share is relatively tiny… albeit three times Canada’s share … bloody Aussies! }};-D
Tim <almost moved to Aussie (from Germany) … long ago>
https://www.worldometers.info/coal/coal-consumption-by-count…
You are not making your own case.
The case made in the article (which I agree with) is that renewables have now joined other energy sources in market price ups and downs. FWIW, note that the article predates the Russia/Ukraine war.
“The era of ever-cheaper clean power is over…In the past year…prices for solar panels have surged more than 50%.”
And back to the OP. Europe is negotiating a doubling of coal imports from Botswana, but President Masisi emphasized that “all parties were committed to reducing carbon emissions in line with the Paris Agreement on climate change.”
Ya gotta laugh or cry.
DB2
The case made in the article (which I agree with) is that renewables have now joined other energy sources in market price ups and downs.
“The era of ever-cheaper clean power is over…In the past year…prices for solar panels have surged more than 50%.”
Market prices and costs now effect all.
Wind turbine makers struggle to find pricing power
www.reuters.com/business/energy/wind-turbine-makers-struggle…
Wind turbine makers racked up hefty losses last quarter, swelled by rocketing costs and cut-throat competition…Both Vestas and Siemens Gamesa have, over the past year increased average selling prices by a double-digit percentage and turned down projects where assumed prices were too low. That has bucked a trend of stagnant or falling prices in recent years…
“We cannot price and we cannot do things we don’t know of,” Andersen told an investor call after the earnings [a greater than expected loss] referring to among other things a 40% jump in European steel prices in just a matter of weeks.
DB2
Use your energy to get more money spent in the US are advancing these often deflationary energy technologies.
No deflation at the consumer level from solar in Maine:
As sticker shock for solar power looms, Maine lawmakers consider options
www.pressherald.com/2022/04/12/costs-of-solar-policy-under-s…
Two bills now before the Legislature are aimed at reducing future sticker shock for electricity customers, without completely eroding the incentives that have attracted hundreds of millions of dollars in solar investment from across the world in the past few years.
If passed, the bills, L.D. 634 and L.D. 1026, would amend Maine’s net energy billing rules, which dictate how certain classes of solar developers are paid for the power generated by their projects…
One estimate from the Public Utilities Commission calculated that delivery rates could rise more than 44% by 2025, if projects totaling 1,667 megawatts of capacity come online. But if solar reimbursements are trimmed as proposed in L.D. 634 and all proposed projects are built, delivery rates could still rise 35% or so, according to Harwood’s estimates.
DB2
As sticker shock for solar power looms, Maine lawmakers consider options
www.pressherald.com/2022/04/12/costs-of-solar-policy-under-s……
Two bills now before the Legislature are aimed at reducing future sticker shock for electricity customers, without completely eroding the incentives that have attracted hundreds of millions of dollars in solar investment from across the world in the past few years.
I admire your passion, but you’ve posted this same article several times over the past few weeks. At this point I’m sure everyone who is interested has seen it.
I admire your passion, but you’ve posted this same article several times over the past few weeks. At this point I’m sure everyone who is interested has seen it.
Good point, although I’m not sure the info has sunk in. How do the large rate increases fit into the ‘deflationary renewables’ idea?
DB2
DB2,
The development of PV has slowed down to roughly 2% yearly improvements. Materials have also been ramping up in price for a while now. I am not denying that.
But if you want to read a link…as you want others to read your links…
https://news.mit.edu/2021/simulator-photovoltaic-cells-devel…
Germany shut down its nuclear energy and increased coal consumption for electricity generation.
Germany’s per capita coal consumption is 4 times and USA’s is 3 times India’s and they blame India for not doing enough to cut carbon emissions.
https://www.worldometers.info/coal/coal-consumption-by-count……
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mam,
You link has bogus information on coal consumption. Here is the link to the real data for all countries from 2010 to 2020:
https://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/business-sites/en/global/c…
Page 5 shows consumption of coal.
Germany’s share of worl coal consumption is 1.2% at 1.84 exajoules in 2020
China’s share is 54.3% at 82.27
India’s share is 11.6% at 17.24
USA’s share is 6.1% at 9.2
Japan share is 3.0% at 4.57
Russia’s share is 2.2% at 3.27
From the above data you can see that Germany’s per capita coal consumption can not be 4 time greater than USA’s per capiata coal consumtion.
Coal Power Emissions Per Capita is shown at the following link:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/20/australi…
Jaak
Household electricity rates, 2H21, in Euros per kwh
Denmark : 0.3448 euro/kwh - no nuclear
Germany : 0.3234
Ireland : 0.2974 - no nclear
Spain : 0.2816
Sweden : 0.2604
Italy : 0.2360 - no nuclear
Norway : 0.2206 - no nuclear
France : 0.2022
Estonia: 0.1939 - no nuclear
Finland: 0.1840
Poland : 0.1574 - no nuclear
Netherland: 0.1449
California : 24.4 US cents per kwh
Arizona: 12.52 cents
Nevada : 13.05 - no nuclear
Oregon : 10.89 - no nuclear
US average : 13.78
Ya gotta laugh at these comparison’s waterfell likes to makke.