2 thumbs up on used Tesla

Wow! This is a lot of automobile for $21,000 and appears to be indistinguishable from a new Model Y AWD with Performance boost (4.2 sec., 0-60 acceleration.) Even though it’s a 2020 model with 71,000 miles on the odometer, Tesla had it polished up like new – it even had the “new car smell” (I know, you can accomplish that with a $5 can of fragrance.)

Spent about half an hour checking vehicle before signing papers Monday. No issues found expect, “Where’s that bag I’m supposed to get with the charging cable and connector?”

Tesla Advisor says, “What bag? Teslas haven’t come with a charging cable in years?”

I said, “I don’t know. Every used Tesla delivery checklist I saw on youtube says to make sure you have the bag with the charging cable and connector adapter so that you can use a non-Tesla charger.”

https://shop.tesla.com/product/mobile-connector

https://shop.tesla.com/product/sae-j1772-charging-adapter?sku=1067348-00-C

So I say to him, “Is that an extra cost option? Maybe I need to buy one? How much are they? Surely you weren’t going to let me leave the dealership with the vehicle without some kind of cable I can use to charge it from a 110V socket when I get home?”

Tesla Advisor, “We don’t sell anything like that here”.

So he emerges from the back room with the $50 adapter, 'Is this what you’re talking about?"

I said, “No. What I saw on youtube was a square black bag with the TESLA logo and a 15-20 foot long cable.”

So then he pulls something out of the wall socket from behind the desk, “Is this what you’re talking about? It’s the Tesla Mobile Connector.”

I said, “Well, it appears that would work for me since it at least has the 110V plug.”

So then my Tesla Advisor goes to the back room again and emerges with the black Tesla bag I saw on youtube and puts the cable and connector in it.

I ask, “How much is all that?”

Tesla Advisor, 'We don’t sell these here. I’m just going to give it to you."

I say, 'That’s great. But why wasn’t this in the car to begin with?"

I’m still missing the Mobil Connector plug for a 220V socket, which is included with the $275 Mobile Connector on Tesla’s web site. Maybe I can find one on eBay.

Car only had a 61% charge on the battery. I told the Tesla Advisor that I’d like to charge it to at least 80% and check that the battery charging was working. He said that they didn’t have a Supercharger at this location, but that Tesla gives you a free Supercharge session within the first 100 miles. He programmed in a charger about 90 miles South of Renton in Chehalis, WA and said I could top off the battery there.

Next he tried to pair my smartphone with the automobile so that I could use the smartphone as my key. This attempt failed. He said sometimes it takes up to 48 hours for Tesla’s computer to be updated with the new owners information. I’d have to use the credit card sized key in the interim by swiping it on a sensor on the pillar on the driver’s side door.

Driving South back home, I noticed a message on the screen saying “battery being preheated for Supercharger session”. Tesla Supercharger was in a large mall, but I didn’t see it at first. So I decided to go to Taco Bell for something to eat and the car was off for about 20 minutes or so.

When I found the Supercharger at a location about 500 feet from Taco Bell, I got a warning to proceed directly to the Supercharger when pre-treatment is under way. My 20 minute stop at Taco Bell meant that a 4 minute charge was now going to take 20 minutes.

The 80 miles from Chehalis to my home used 37% of a full charge to 80% of battery capacity. That would put the 80% range at 216 miles and 100% at 259 miles. When new in 2020, vehicle was advertised with a 315 mile 100% charge range. You’d expect some erosion of battery capacity in a 4 or 5 year old car, but most the 4 or 5 year old cars i saw on line had certified battery capacities in the 90% to 93% range. Maybe it was the way I was driving?

Vehicle has now been charging in my garage for 21 hours on a 110V socket and has added 83 miles of range to the battery. Since it’s not uncommon for me to go a week or two without taking the car out of the garage, I could likely survive on 110V home charging alone. Supercharger’s posted price was 38 cents/kWH (though I got the charge for free). I pay 11 cents/kWH at home.

Downsides I noticed so far is that the build quality and the vehicle’s interior is far short of what I had in the Toyotas and Nissans I’ve driven for the past 40 years. Also, the automation and touch screen controls are definitely a safety hazard.

It was raining off an on on the drive home, and I was using the voice commands to operate the wipers. When a sudden cloudburst completely obstructed the view through the windshield, it took 2 or 3 seconds for the computer to turn the wipers on. It would have been much faster if I just flicked the stalk on the steering column on any of my previous cars.

Overall, I judge it a great deal for my $21,000 purchase price, but there’s no way I’d pay $50,000 for a new one. Find someone else to pay the first few years of depreciation.

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I happy you’re pleased with your purchase. Now you should protect it with some bumper stickers.

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That’s great! And it’s hard to tell if it’s a prophylactic, or a vandal placed it on the vehicle. {{ LOL }}

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I got this one for my brother.

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Maybe you could get an Audi symbol with the money you saved. :grin:

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Mazel tov! Happy driving!

The Captain

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Do you have to buy any subscriptions for Tesla services like software updates?

Free Standard Connectivity runs through June 2028. The Premium Connectivity service costs $10/month and is required for FSD to operate. You get one month free of Premium Connectivity and FSD on a used car purchase.

I’m still tying to figure out if a free FM radio is included with Standard Connectivity. I’m not paying $10/month for free over-the-air FM radio. I can get that on my smartphone.

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https://lamag.com/news/used-tesla-market-takes-a-nosedive

Used Tesla Market Takes a Nosedive

Prices plummet as buyers steer clear amid controversies surrounding Elon Musk’s political role * MAR 26, 2025

The Tesla badge no longer carries the cachet it once did. Across the country, owners are trying to unload their electric vehicles only to face a market where buyers have vanished, and values are in free fall.
Searches for pre-owned Teslas dropped 16% in just the past month, even as interest in other electric brands climbed 28% over the year. This dramatic shift coincides with CEO Elon Musk's growing political profile and increasing reports of Tesla owners facing public backlash.
"I would sell it in a heartbeat if somebody offered me a decent price, but the chances of that happening probably not the case," said Pam Perkins, a frustrated Tesla owner from Northern California.

That’s the game: take advantage of circumstances. Same in the stock market sometimes, finding value where others don’t

I wouldn’t suggest trying the same thing with Tesla stock, however.

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I may not have bought my Tesla Model Y at the bottom. But I’m glad I wasn’t the guy who paid $60,000 for it in 2020.

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The FM radio is an app that you can config to show up (or not) on the icons on the screen. Tesla’s do not have an AM radio but you can get most of them via the TuneIn app (maybe requires premium connectivity).

Hint on the wipers. If your car has the turn signal stalk, the button on this does a wiper swipe if you press it half way. Full press wipes and sprays washer fluid.
Also, once you do a wiper swipe you get a little popup on the screen- that shows you how you can use the left scroll wheel to adjust the speed manually or set to auto or off.
This doesn’t require you to take your eyes off the road once you know how it works, just like with most cars, IMO.

On the charging cables. Tesla stopped including these many years ago since a lot of people don’t ever use them and some people have bought their 2nd Tesla and only need one…therefore they sell them as extras now. Note that the car knows how many amps you are charging with so the car can collect these stats and report it back to Tesla. At some point long ago IIRC they said how often these were used and it was a very small number who ever used it.

Mike

Yes, the TuneIn FM radio app requires Premium Connectivity. I’m not planning to continue that after the one-month free trial.

Tesla support tells me that an FM radio upgrade on a 2020 Model Y is $500 plus tax (that would entail installing an FM receiver.) I can get FM radio on my smartphone for free and play it in the vehicle.

Yes I saw that wiper popup on the screen during my drive home, but i was busy looking at the road in heavy traffic. I’m sure it will get better once I have more experience with it.

I rarely drive more than 40 miles in a day, so the 110V cable will likely suffice for me. I guess I’m one of the few Tesla customers where the 110V cable is the ideal charging solution.

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I noticed that one of my neighbors brought home a used Model 3 today. Said, “I can’t believe how cheap they’re getting.” New Tesla sales may be slow, but the used ones are “flying off the lot”.

My smartphone still isn’t pairing with my Model Y for keyless entry. Have an appointment at the Tesla dealer 2 miles away at noon tomorrow. They expect the fix to take under an hour.

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As well as suspension and ride quality. I’ve never liked Tesla interiors or ride quality. It’s never felt up to Honda or Toyota level to me either. Yet another reason I never considered buying one.

What is your battery warranty?

Makes sense, lots of Tesla owners are wanting to sell. High supply = low, low prices!

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Battery and drive train is warranted until June 2028 or 120,000 miles (8 years from when vehicle entered service) One-year or 10,000 miles on everything else.

Battery failures seem to be rare today so I’m not too worried. And of course, I’m prepared to write-off the vehicle if the worst happens.

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Are people burning Teslas in your neighborhood?

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Teslas haven’t come with the mobile connector included since 2021 or 2022. My 21 M3 came with one, but my kids 24 M3 did not. The “launch edition” 2026 model Y does come with it, because it comes with EVERYTHING (all the possible options are included)

Definitely can. Or Amazon.

There’s very little that you need to do on the screen while driving. Instead, you might learn to talk to the car to make it do things for you.

The button on the end of the left stalk turns the wipers on. Then you can use the left scroll wheel to change wiper speed or to put it into auto mode (which is pretty bad in my opinion, Tesla cheaped out and didn’t put a true rain sensor onto the windshield).

This cannot be the case. Even without preconditioning (heating the battery to get it ready to accept charge a little faster), the difference between charging is never this much. The 4 minute charge after preconditioning might, just might, become 7 or 8 minutes without any preconditioning. And that’s only in a cool or cold climate. In a warm climate, there is even less of a difference.

If you have the card key, you may be able to add a bluetooth phone as a key, even if the car hasn’t been transferred to your Tesla app login yet. My Tesla (21 M3) has 8 or 9 bluetooth keys added, and as I recall all the early ones were added manually using the key card. Maybe they changed it to require the app now?