Antarctic melt may happen FAR FASTER than expected--flooding coastlines worldwide

  1. They could do that; they have the money.
  2. They could do that as well.
  3. They wouldn’t do it “then”, they would do it the week before!


A sea level rise rate change of 500% or 1000% would be 0.6" to 1.2" per year

At that rate, it would still take more than 20 years before permanent flooding occurs. (one or more periods of flooding per day, every day)

Climate Change Indicators: Sea Level | US EPA

So, none of you read the article then? The entire article is about evidence they found related to ‘how quickly’ the arctic ‘could’, and has, melted. This basically means that if it really gets going, do not be surprised if it REALLY goes and despite the numbers posted here, the article says up to 16ft (5m) of ocean rise.
That would REALLY screw up our weather systems and impact many more people than just a president’s ocean side home.


This is probably unrelated so feel free to ignore.


I think we’re aligned here.

16ft of sea level rise over 200 years is … wait for it…

Just less than an inch per year.

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The first major symptom is El Nino. We are now getting years of El Nino winters.

People around me are happy with warmer winters. It drives me nuts to hear it. I just kid of mumble we are crazy. I do not like cold weather but we are killing ourselves lock stock and barrel.


There have always been El Niños and La Niñas (and mostly La Nadas). This year is an El Niño and before that we had La Ninas.


People also ask

Is winter 2022 El Niño or La Niña?

Of course, this past winter stands out for many with record rain and snowfall, but winter 2022-23 was neither in an El Niño or La Niña pattern.Sep 25, 2023

Basically, it warmed up and snapped out of La Nina.

El Niños and La Niñas have been going on for as long as the Pacific ocean has existed. Does climate change affect El Niño? The current answer seems to be maybe. Here is what a 2023 review says:

Observations show an increase in the size of El-Niño’s since the 1960s.

“El Niño/Southern Oscillation (ENSO) sea surface temperature (SST) variability increased after 1960, influenced by more frequent strong El Niño and La Niña events. Whether such changes are linked to anthropogenic warming, however, is largely unknown.”

“In … the real world with limited observations, it is difficult, if not impossible, to determine whether observed ENSO has been affected by rising greenhouse gas emissions”

They then turn to models.

“[One modeling] approach indicates that anthropogenic climate change has generated a statistically significant increase in ENSO SST [Sea Surface Temperature] variability between the pre-1960 and post-1960 period.”

Tang et al.
Extreme El Niño events severely disrupt the global climate, causing pronounced socio-economic losses. A prevailing view is that extreme El Niño events, defined by total precipitation or convection in the Niño3 area, will increase 2-fold in the future. However, this projected change was drawn without removing the potential impacts of Coupled Model Intercomparison Project phase 5 (CMIP5) models’ common biases. Here, we find that the models’ systematic biases in simulating tropical climate change over the past century can reduce the reliability of the projected change in the Pacific sea surface temperature (SST) and its related extreme El Niño frequency. The projected Pacific SST change, after removing the impacts of 13 common biases, displays a ‘La Niña-like’ rather than ‘El Niño-like’ change. Consequently, the extreme El Niño frequency, which is highly linked to the zonal distribution of the Pacific SST change, would remain mostly unchanged under CMIP5 warming scenarios. This finding increases confidence in coping with climate risks associated with global warming.


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