Eli Lilly obesity drug

Eli Lilly obesity drug data shines, shares rise
https://www.reuters.com/business/drugmaker-eli-lilly-reports…

April 28(Reuters) - Eli Lilly and Co (LLY.N) on Thursday said its potential blockbuster obesity drug achieved a goal of helping patients lose more than 20% of their weight in a late-stage clinical trial, and its shares rose about 3%.

The U.S. drugmaker also reported first-quarter earnings that topped Wall Street estimates.

<<Warning: the Reuters article, after the above quoted part, red herrings into a different (alzheimer) drug, … really sloppy editing/reporting, IMO.>>

Obesity is a euphemism for diabetes, metabolic syndrome and a web of interrelated and correlated conditions.

We know that obesity is a problem in the US, not only at the individual level, but also at the society and governmental levels, in both health and financial terms.

Jim Cramer says it could be a block buster.

A TA peek at a 5 year chart, suggests LLY is holding its share price quite well during these trying times.
Last November 2021*, the beginning of the current market woes, LLY share price was about $265-270, some fluctuations and today (after this obesity trial report), is $295isb, above both the 50dma and 200dma. MACD is turning up, RSI is neutral.

With all the official medical advice about obesity, the medical advice and miracle cures offered on informal pulp media and social media, the scammers, the gyms, the etc etc etc that push “lose weight”, Cramer might be correct?

Who doesn’t want to drop the gym memberships and let a pill do the heavy lifting?

:alien:
ralph
*Here’s a 6 month chart.
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui

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The obesity rate would be SO much lower if the population ate a healthier diet with less ultra-processed junk food and more real food. Why can’t that be on the table? A healthier diet wouldn’t have the risks and side effects of drugs. A healthier diet would surely be cheaper than these drugs. Or is our dysfunctional food system sacred? Is a junk-food-heavy diet sacred? Is the fad diet industry sacred?

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< Is a junk-food-heavy diet sacred?>

Yes!

Although I agree with every single word you wrote, experience shows that Americans are addicted to their junk food diet. Some of the largest companies in America fight tooth and nail to obscure the harm done by sugar in the same way that Big Tobacco fought the evidence that smoking causes lung cancer.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/19/business/coca-cola-teens-adve…

I can’t eat a single product from either Coca-Cola or Pepsi. (Yes, I can drink bottled water but choose to carry my own refillable water bottle.) I can’t eat a single product from McDonald’s, any fast food or any of the pizza companies. I put on weight extremely fast. I only eat home cooking, low carb, high vegetables and fruit. I also exercise every day.

Over 1 out of 3 Americans eat fast food on a given day, especially the young and minorities. It’s cheap, easy and filling. And deadly.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db322.htm

A good friend of mine, a very intelligent bachelor lawyer, died of diabetes after gradually having both his legs amputated. He was morbidly obese. I went with him on a visit to his long-time doctor, who pointed this out but had clearly given up on making a difference.

It’s deplorable that people can’t take control of their own health, but experience shows that they don’t. And a pill is cheaper and less painful than bariatric surgery.

Wendy

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Feed the pill to their wallet…

For lunch today I had enchiladas mineras (corn tortillas fast cooked in a wonderful chili sauce made from 3 different chilis, tomatillos, garlic, onion, a few local (picked from my own fields) herbs, and then with a little farmers cheese and lettuce rolled inside the hot tortillas, with a side of pinto beans and grilled nopal cactus, and lemon infused water to drink.

This one meal more than completely fulfills all major nutritional requirements (I usually also eat some fruit and yoghurt for breakfast and olives and pickled veges and a cocktail in the PM). It is insanely cheap (35 cents or so a serving), tastes fabulous, and is quickly made. We make the bright red chili sauce in bulk every two weeks, but it can be bought pre-made from nice little old ladies for only a little more than I pay for my ingredients.

This is a food like

succotash https://hoohla.cooking/summer-succotash/,
hoppin’ John https://www.wellplated.com/hoppin-john-recipe/, and
red beans and greens https://thiswifecooks.com/red-beans-dirty-rice-with-collard-…

food originally cooked by aboriginals and by Africans, and then adapted as food for slaves and prisoners to keep them in the best health for the least money. Enchiladas mineras were originated where I live by Spanish overlords seeking to extract the most profit from their Indian and Mestizo semi-slave miners working the staggeringly rich mines of Guanajuato, Mexico. The above recipes are vegan, but the more physical the labor the more fatty proteins and bread to add to the above recipes.

For good health, eat like slave laborers and clever peasants. Quick easy nutritious cheap food. None of these are as “quick and easy” as manufactured restaurant and packaged glops, but the effort needed is small and infrequent.

But the herds of USA humans will not change course so long as the government is controlled by the manufactured food industry.

david fb

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But the herds of USA humans will not change course so long as the government is controlled by the manufactured food industry.

If we all ate like we should the American AgroIndustrial Food Corruption Pyramid (AmAgFoCoP) would collapse tanking the Economy.

The Captain’s
lunch:

  • marinated diced chicken breasts
  • pan fried with caramelized chopped onions and bacon bits
  • served on a bed of al dente farfalle (butterflies)
  • marinade: low sodium salt, black pepper, sweet paprika, garlic powder, turmeric, dried oregano, Worcestershire sauce, and olive oil
  • yummy!!!
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The folks who do the cooking don’t have the time and energy to do everything from scratch.

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Who doesn’t want to drop the gym memberships and let a pill do the heavy lifting?

Unless this is a different drug, the one I read about the other day was a once a week injection. IIRC, cost over $1000/month. So you could either have the ultimate spa gym membership or build your own home gym several times over. Plus, it was a forever drug. Stop taking it, assuming no other lifestyle changes, the weight comes back on.

But all that fits the typical American lifestyle, the easy way out instead of a little effort.

Major caveat, way too early to determine any long term adverse reactions. The last magic weight loss pill resulted in pulmonary hypertension and/or pulmonary valve stenosis.

JLC

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But all that fits the typical American lifestyle, the easy way out instead of a little effort.

Yup. I hear sales pitches like “sit yourself fit” and “eat yourself thin” almost as often as I hear “insider information they don’t want you to know”.

Quacks seem to have taken over the local PBS station pledge drives. One hour long infomertial after another promoting someone’s self-help book.

This is one of the hucksters that infests PBS now.

Daniel Gregory Amen (born July 1954)[1] is an American celebrity doctor[1] who practices as a psychiatrist[2] and brain disorder specialist[3] as director of the Amen Clinics.[4] He is a five-times New York Times best-selling author as of 2012.[5]

Amen has built a profitable business around the use of SPECT (single-photon emission computed tomography) imaging for purported diagnostic purposes.[6] His marketing of SPECT scans and much of what he says about the brain and health in his books, media appearances, and marketing of his clinics has been condemned by scientists and doctors as lacking scientific validity and as being unethical, especially since the way SPECT is used in his clinics exposes people to harmful radiation with no clear benefit

Amen’s websites market vitamin supplements and a branded range of other dietary supplements.[8] These supplements have been promoted for a number of health benefits, including a claimed ability to prevent or stop Alzheimer’s disease—there is however no known benefit from taking such supplements except for specific substance deficiencies.[23][24] Neurologist Robert Burton has written that he was “just appalled” by the things offered for sale on Amen’s “big business” web sites,[8] and Harriet Hall has said that Amen prescribes “inadequately tested natural remedies” and “irrational mixtures of nutritional diet supplements” as part of his treatment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Amen

Steve

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JLC writes,

Major caveat, way too early to determine any long term adverse reactions. The last magic weight loss pill resulted in pulmonary hypertension and/or pulmonary valve stenosis.

America was a much stronger nation when Eli Lilly was making drugs with side effects like “the four-hour erection”.

https://adage.com/videos/cialis-be-my-baby/654

intercst

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