Flood danger from Helene isn't going to be limited to costal areas

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ovw

Check out days 2 and 3 to see how widespread this storm’s heavy rains are predicted to be.

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Now mark this post, and see if reality matches the media hype.

Steve

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I’m in a golf outing on Saturday. I don’t golf a whole lot, but it seems like half the time I do, it rains on us,lol.

It always amazes me that a hurricane in Florida influences the weather all the way up to Canada. I’ve never experienced a 'cane 1st hand, but it must be a scary time. Powerful storms. Hope everybody down south is prepared and gets lucky with it.

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The power of the wind is absolutely amazing! I only lived through one hurricane in 1996, Venezuela is south of the Caribbean hurricane zone.

I was docked in Marina del Rey in Fajardo, Puerto Rico, on the east coast of the island. We expected the waves to hit from the east but the storm took a more southernly route and devastated the south coast of the island. I had bought a long line to make a hoist for going up the mast. It came in real handy to tie up the boat. Every once in a while I would look out to see the scenery blowing like all hell but since we didn’t get the surge from the east the water was quite calm. The eye of the storm passed right overhead, a curious experience, a few minutes calm in the middle of the storm.

The Captain

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Having been through a handful (thankfully missed Andrew), it’s no joke. Helene looks like it will be fairly powerful when it hits, though there’s a world of difference between the expected Cat 3 intensity and the Cat 4 or 5 monsters that have hit in the past.

The silver lining is that it’s fairly fast-moving (which mitigates the total rainfall but makes the surge worse) and it’s likely to hit an area with very sparsely-populated coastline.

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It has now been upgraded to cat 4.

Strongest hurricane to hit the big bend area of the Florida Gulf Coast. If it passes to the west of Tallahassee it will trash the place as Tallahassee is full of trees that have never been stressed by a major hurricane.

:frowning::pray:t2:
Qazulight

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As I was watching the “news” at 6:00 this evening, I received another robocall from the county that is on the south side of Tampa Bay…don’t ask how I got on their call list, I can’t even make up a plausible story… This message said “shelter in place”. The one I received a couple days ago said “evacuate”.

Steve

Have a brilliant old college friend from Tallahassee, although he long ago left his parents behind in the ancestral home and moved himself to Kansas City (“I like the jazz there more, and tornadoes were an improvement on Florida Summers and hurricanes.” He facebooked his travails in “Forcing 101 year old Dad to evacuate his ‘perfectly safe inland high and dry home”. He finally used memories of the ancient’s long deceased wife…. and lots of yelling…. to get him and a few momentoes out of their magnificent but far too floodable home.

I grieve the human displacements and the gorgeous ancient landscapes of communities under threat. A big loss seems horribly inevitable.

d fb

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Qaz, stay safe

Heard on one news feed – 1 M customers without power

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It was a non event on Panama City Beach. Worst thing that happened was we ate at Waffle House not knowing the Long Horn Steak House was open.

It looks like it spared Tallahasee and Atlanta. I am hoping the insurance industry fares well and we can keep our condo Two more seasons. :crossed_fingers:t4:

Cheers
Qazulight

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If you seriously concerned you should put your unit on the market and rent for two years.

DB2

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A few minutes ago our standby generator kicked on. Here in south central Indiana, Helene has been very gentle so far. We’re approaching 2" of welcome rainfall. The winds have been picking up which is why the generator is running.

Why would your standby generator turn on if the winds have been picking up?

DB2

I should, but I don’t want to. I like my condo and if I have to live in Florida, this is the place.

Do you ‘have’ to live in Florida? Alabama is only a few miles away and I’m sure there are condos there. And when the sun shines just head to the beach.

JimA

One of the weather people on a local Detroit station used to be married to an officer in the USN. He was transferred to Mobile, so they bought an off base house, about three blocks away from the beach. Then Katrina hit. Her husband shot some video of the remains of their house: bottom three or four feet of all the walls blown out by the storm surge. The floor was covered with seaweed and personal belongings. But the personal belongings were not their stuff. The stuff had been washed in from houses closer to the beach. Their own stuff was a couple blocks farther inland. So, why would anyone want to live anywhere near a beach in Alabama?

Steve

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Article in the WaPo on a guy who paid $400,000 for an ocean front home on Cape Cod that’s likely to fall into the ocean within 2 to 10 years. The next big storm could do it in. Based on rental rates, at that price it’s probably a reasonable deal if it lasts 5 years.

Oceanfront housing is an expense, not an investment.

free link: comments to the article are great – shows that most people don’t understand it

https://wapo.st/4eFxAoN

intercst

Do you ‘have’ to live in Florida?

Yes and no.

My territory is Bay county and I must live near or in it. I could transfer, but I only have 28 months left with this company. Too little time to bother moving.

Cheers
Qazulight

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Twitter thread on Asheville, NC and its surrounding county.

Well, I wasn’t talking about any beaches in AL - if you looked at a map and Panama City, then went 40 miles north you are in AL - seems like a much safer place. But then qazu said he is required to live in his territory; so AL is right out!

JimA