Is Florida going to have a labor crunch?

In Florida, there are more than 1.8 million immigrants, including those without permanent status. Immigrants represent 11% of the total labor force but account for the largest share in certain industries.

They make up 37% of the workforce in agriculture; 23% in construction; and 14% in service jobs, according to a recent KFF Health News analysis of a 2021 U.S. Census report.

Andy

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The rest of us need rethink our survival when it comes to Florida as well. I am serious.

History is littered with people who get control and kill. The power seeking is sick.

Facebook, TikTok and Instagram feeds have been filled with viral videos showing abandoned farms and construction projects.

Doesn’t matter. All the Gov has to say is “American jobs for Americans”, and the argument is over. Maybe he will announce a program to fly people being forced into the workforce by the expanded SNAP work requirement into the state to take all the lousy jobs? Meanwhile, school is out for summer, so start a PR campaign telling parents to put their spawn to work, or get nasty, and tell parents the food shortages are because they haven’t pushed their spawn into the fields to “learn the dignity of work”.

Steve

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The same applies to pretty much all politicians (not all, though). First, let’s see the Disaster kids working out in the fields. If we don’t see that, then nobody needs to do it.

Looking at the July numbers, Florida is #2 in job growth (YoY).

Nevada       4.2%
Florida      3.4
Texas        3.3
Idaho        3.2
New Mexico   3.2
...
US           2.1%

https://seidmaninstitute.com/job-growth/state/
DB2

Second place is just the first loser.

“Dale Earnhardt”

Andy

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Nursing home staffing should not count. They are not factory jobs. Unless our IRA is feeding the ingrate Floridians.

Although the growth rate is more than half again as high as the national average. But certainly doesn’t look like a labor crunch at this time.

DB2

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True, but still only Second. While the state growing the Most, is growing 800 basis points faster. But your graph only shows the job growth, not how many jobs are available. So yes we still have a labor crunch.

Andy

600,000+ job openings are for snake catchers. One keeps getting state protection…

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600,000+ job openings are for snake catchers. One keeps getting state protection…

And here I thought they only had one governor.

Andy

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He is easy to catch

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The new law goes into effect July 1 and will target the workforce lacking proper legal documents in various industries. It expands the worker verification process and requires that businesses with 25 or more employees have to use E-Verify, an online system that checks a person’s citizenship. If someone is found working without proper documents, the state can penalize employers.
From the Article linked

Even though Florida or the rest of the country can’t afford to lose all of the undocumented workers, this law is probably the way forward. Why? Because it is the only way to put an immigration bill through the congress and create a legal basis for these essential workers to exist here; and exist without fear, and castigation. Accept! Politicians like De Santis will never allow corporations or the large industrial agricultural producers of be prosecuted for hiring undocumented works. De Santis (as others in the Republican Party) depends on hundred of millions of dollars to run their campaigns from Big Agriculture Producers.
If the Agricultural Industry had to let go of 37% of their work force, or Major Construction corporations had to let go of 25% of their work force over night? Yeah, there would be a tremendous lobby in Washington to pass a reasonable immigration bill that would allow their workforce to be here on a legal basis.

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I want smart moving parts in an integrated approach to solving our immigrant stupidity

an end to our stupid charade shadow worker program, and so I want a phase in of severe penalties on all employers who pay workers who are not have legally, and
the creation of a biometric and hard to counterfit form of ID to certify either citizenship or other specific form of legal presence

qualified amnesty made available to most of those (criteria to be worked out) here gainfully for at least a year, combined with
a specialized program to make citizenship available to some segment of those being legalized who we wish to attract, in return for service in military or a CCC/PWA type program.

We need to move on from the idiot immigration shyster system, and we need to plan out how we can eventually create fast, efficient, border crossing security and duties between USA and Mexico and Canada. We need to move intelligently to becoming a Trade Union with easy movement of all manner of workers to all manner of places to most efficiently do the work to be done.

david fb

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I strongly doubt that. DeSantis is a demagogue. He is uninterested in corporate power. He is against corporate power.

Yes. Keeping strictly to the $$$ and business aspects, remeber that he is running for Prez and his campaign is broke and begging and agri-business has a big bags.

david fb

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What he did because he could talk stupid to stupid about Disney does not work when you knock on anyone’s door for money. He porked the largest employer in the state and keeps doing it now through the board overseeing the land and utilities. Disney suing in the last week just kills DeSantis in Florida. Does not mean he can not win reelection as popular but it will be on a low budget.

No business has a kill me too while your at it motto.

45 played as if he was on the good side of straightening out businesses. The executives all hate him and his style. The excepts are the guys who only want a tax cut.

Just 15% of DeSantis’ contributions have come from small donors, those given less than $200.The vast majority of the $100,000,000 campaign fund that he has comes from Super PACs, namely the Republican PAC. You’ve got to be living in a cave to believe that Politicians like De Santis can run a campaign without his knees bent to Big Ag. and Billionare donors.

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People miss the literalisms of Trump and DeSantis. Reagan pawned off the literalisms as more complex. These other two are direct barebones mean what they say.

The donors are getting it. This was dated Aug 4.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4138541-desantis-donor-cuts-off-funds-moderate-shift/

This shows that DeSantis’s literalism against corporations makes for very weak donors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-02/desantis-2024-campaign-facing-donors-holding-back-cash#xj4y7vzkg

Yes there have been and are plenty of large donors. He is rubbing them wrong. DeSantis is anti corporate power. The literalisms will be seen. He means it.

Take away one thing, DeSantis’s climb was by being silent. The untrump trump. He is not silent any longer. He is on the record.

@TucsonBones adding more important than the two of the mean it both of them have no economic plan. You can not fund a presidential run for over $1 B with no econ plan and have a hope against an industrial infrastructure plan on the other side.

I still think Biden will step aside in Jan or Feb and Newsom will run successfully. Newsom is polling a slight bit better against Biden for president than DeSantis is against Trump. Newsom has a huge and growing email list and is “campaigning” as he puts it. He is extremely good at this.

Wouldn’t that be dissing the VP and create, shall we say, some divisions?

DB2