The air battle featured Chinese-made J-10C fighters, PL-15 air to air missiles, HQ-9 air defense system, and ZDK-03 AWACS. Reported India losses included 3 French-made Rafale fighters, 1 Russia-made Su-30, 1 MiG-29, and 1 Israel-made Heron UAV.
What makes the outcome so shocking is that the Rafale fighter, sold to India at $240 million each, is often lauded as the most advanced European fighter jet, didn’t manage to put up any fight in the confrontation with J-10C. The Mica and Meteor air-to-air missiles carried by Rafale were discovered intact/unfired in the wreckage.
J-10C, by no means a backward fighter, is considered as well past its prime in the Chinese air force whose more advanced fighters include J-20, J-35 (both 5th generation stealth fighters), J-16, J-15 (4.5th generation multirole fighters), let alone the 6th generation fighters (J-36 and J-50) that are being tested.
In all fairness, Rafale would be a strong match against J-10C in a head-to-head dog fight. At $240 million, it is even for more expensive than F-35.
Then, how did the Indian air force suffer such a humiliating one-sided loss against a much smaller Pakistan air force?
The answer lies in the strength of the integrated Chinese weapon system used by Pakistan.
Pakistan utilized a full suite of highly integrated and synchronised air combat systems from China
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I don’t know The UNZ Review, so Google is my friend.
I scanned the headlines, scroll down at the site.
I detect significant anti US, anti “Western” bias.
Therefore I put it in the “be very skeptical of any info on this site” category.
As for the India Pakistan article, and who shot who down, and which arms were found in wreckage, intact… I saw, yesterday, another source (anti China, so “be very skeptical of any info on this site”) that claimed China was manipulating the “news” to support Chinese arms superiority (and sales).
FWIW.
ralph
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And I notice the lack of US propaganda that our main stream puts out. There has not been an international intervention ithe MSM hasn’t supported.
And after 3 month our MSM FINALLY notices what is going on in Gaza. I wonder if such stories have to survive AIPAC censorship.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/12/gaza-famine-report-looting/
Gaza faces ‘critical’ famine risk, experts say, as Israel blocks aid
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/world/middleeast/gaza-famine-starvation-israel.html
In Private, Some Israeli Officers Admit That Gaza Is on the Brink of Starvation
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I think that most can agree that what is happening to the Gaza civillians is genocide on a major level. Israel will have to answer for that in the court of public opinion.
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“Bibi” is probably looking for them to “self-deport” into Egypt, so he can lock the door behind them.
In Shiny-land, saying anything against Israel is, by default “anti-Semitic”, and “pro-terrorist”, hence grounds for imprisonment without due process.
Steve
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