New Book: China vs. U.S

https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/books/breakneck-review-lawyers-vs-technocrats-1aefcff8

‘Breakneck’ Review: Lawyers vs. Technocrats

The United States is a ‘lawyerly society’ that excels at obstruction. China is an ‘engineering state’ dedicated to technological supremacy.

By Tunku Varadarajan, The Wall Street Journal

Dan Wang asks the question in “Breakneck,” his brilliant book—equal parts gripping and depressing—about “China’s quest to engineer the future.” His question, distilled to its essence, is this: Can the success of China—with its dams and bridges, highways and high-speed rail networks, high-rise cities, world-altering factories and, increasingly, top-notch tech and military prowess—arouse or alarm America into rediscovering its soul and recovering the productive mojo that made the U.S. the most powerful nation in history?

A gloom quickly descends as we read this book. It’s hard not to conclude that the battle is already lost and that, in a generation or two, a hard-edged, hypernationalist, ruthlessly mercantilist and relentlessly revanchist China will have the world at its mercy. Mr. Wang hits us with the statistics: China has the capacity to produce 60 million cars a year out of an annual global market of 90 million; it has 100 million people working in manufacturing, as opposed to less than 13 million in the U.S.; in 2022 China had 1,800 ships under construction, compared to America’s five; by 2030 China will have 45% of the world’s industrial capacity, while the U.S. and all other high-income countries combined will muster only 38%…

Which leads us to the thesis of Mr. Wang’s book: Whereas the American elite is “made up of mostly lawyers, excelling at obstruction,” the Chinese state is run by a “technocratic class, made up mostly of engineers, that excels at construction.” China is “an engineering state,” Mr. Wang observes, “building big at breakneck speed, in contrast to the United States’ lawyerly society, blocking everything it can, good and bad.”… [end quote]

In 1957, the U.S.S.R. launched the first satellite, Sputnik, which shocked the U.S. establishment into launching STEM education programs that many METARs benefited from. In addition to academics, I remember practical hands-on classes (for boys) in metalworking, auto shop and woodworking. (Girls had home economics and sewing.)

The slow descent of the U.S. as a manufacturing superpower began in the 1980s when (I was shocked to read) M.B.A. economics books began to teach that the purpose of a company is to maximize shareholder value. (Not to invent, produce, market and service superior products and services.)

The greatest Macroeconomic trend change is the cyclic transfer of superpower status.

The habits and attitudes of the American public have changed to the point that the fundamental hard work needed to regain leadership may be impossible.

Coincidentally, both England and France are featured in separate stories about overwhelming government debt and possible government collapse due to political resistance to reducing budget deficits.

The U.S. is moving in the same direction on a larger scale and probably longer time frame.

As investors, how to we plan for the long term? I’m sure the usual answer will be to hold stocks in a low-cost S&P 500 fund in the expectation that it will grow faster than inflation. But this doesn’t necessarily work in the case of stagflation.

Wendy

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Which means all USAians, especially investors with eyes and intelligence and a modicum of remaining power, need to attend to rebuilding our politics away from total domination by the Business Roundtable, networks of specialized tax avoidance/cheat lawyers and lobbyists, and calcified labor unions out of touch with their own memberships.

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The ‘engineering state’ has it problems as well. Two Chinese social engineering examples come immediately to mind – the one-child policy and the zero-Covid policy.

DB2

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The one-child policy was ended in 2016. It was tough on people but they had a good reason to do it – they were facing rampant overpopulation and possible famine.

The zero-Covid policy was tough on people but considering how crowded China is it may have prevented millions of deaths. They didn’t have a vaccine.

Wendy

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Is that automatically…good?

One of the things about a command economy is that the government can direct it to do whatever the government wants it to do. Modern economics tells us is that this is not often a good thing. If China has auto capacity of 60 million cars a year out of a global market of 90 million, that sounds like it’s bad news for China, not good news. It sounds like they’re over-investing in manufacturing and industrial capacity relative to their own and global needs, because tradeable goods bring in foreign currency useful to the government. That doesn’t sound great?

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That is why dedicated engineers never liked MBA engineers and non-engineers. They were the bean counters who made so many mistakes for their companies. Just look at Boeing as the picture boy.

Do the Chinese have MBAs leading their companies?

I remember when major industrial companies were lead by CEOs who were engineers. Profitable and pioneering companies like Westinghouse, General Electric, Comustion Engineering and many manufacturing, steel, oil, mining, utility, and aerospace companies were run by engineers until MBAs took over and destroyed the engineering teams. Bechtel was run by engineers until Riley Bechtel and Brendan Bechtel:

The current Chairman and CEO of Bechtel is Brendan Bechtel, who became CEO in 2016 and chairman in 2017. He is the fifth generation of the Bechtel family to lead the company, succeeding his father, Riley P. Bechtel, and grandfather, Stephen D. Bechtel Jr.

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Yes, it is good for China. I am surprised this is even a question. People tend to think short term. China is positioned to dominate the world for next 100+ years as the US declines.

In last few decades China has lifted hundreds of millions from poverty and are now dominating the world in energy, arms/drones, manufacturing, innovation, talent and even sports.

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Something else was happening to American culture as the Baby Boomers (worst generation in American history) came of age. Apparently the Greatest Generation were lousy parents. This first became evident in the ivy covered halls of Harvard. The 60’s Age of Aquarius children quickly sold out.

Only the working poor and (surprisingly) very rich have kids who want to make or discover stuff. The offspring of the Middle Class are a great disappointment.

What has saved us in the past from this regrettable shift from engineers/scientists to lawyers/financiers was our ability to attract the best and the brightest tech people from other countries. So much for that.

Speaking of immigration, just out of curiosity to anyone reading this. The southern border is supposedly secure now. How much has that changed your life for the better? (Disclosure: I have long felt that for the great majority of Americans, illegal immigration across the southern border was an irrelevant issue only made significant by a cynical bunch of politicians and white supremacists).

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Are they? Overinvesting in auto factories doesn’t position you to dominate the world - it means you’re wasting resources by building auto factories when you should be building other things.

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Yes, it is sad that the U.S. is reluctant to invest in infrastructure. Yes, lawyers are clever at blocking projects especially using environmental laws. Yes, manufacturing and building railroads and canals help give us economic leadership.

But what about investments in AI and green energy. Don’t those count as examples of modern building? Yes, we should do more. Investors seem willing and we do have the resources.

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Over the past 40 years, China has lifted approximately 800 million people out of poverty. Their mistakes have been much smaller and understandable.

On the other hand, US invaded Iraq and killed 1 million people for no reason. We lost $Trillions in a needless war. These mistakes are not understandable.

China is now reaping the benefits by helping rebuild those countries.

Sure. They’ve done amazing things. But past success is not always a predictor of future success.

They’re no longer a small underdeveloped country. They’ve got the second largest GDP in the world. They are a huge economy these days. That ratchets up the degree of difficulty in allocating resources and capital in order to compete on the global stage.

China’s GDP growth rate has been steadily declining for the last 20 years or so. Declining from double-digits, I might add - so that’s a great problem to have. But it’s an indicator that as they have grown to a “normal” type of economy relative to their underlying size, they’ll also start to be constrained by the “normal” types of issues that keep developed economies from growing at >10% per year.

Now they’re on the “developed country” difficulty setting, things like making sure you have the right allocation of capital relative to your markets and domestic demand starts to matter more. You can, if you want, just decide that you’re going to force your economy to go really heavy on industrial/manufacturing - but if that’s not the efficient allocation, then any “benefits” that accrue to building up that massive industrial capacity might be temporary.

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What albaby wrote!! But also: China’s GREAT and very real historic advancement took place under and immediately after Deng Xiaoping, when he ended totalitarian control of China by the CCP, allowing a certain degree of free market economic activity and much greater social and cultural experimentation and development.

The CCP higher ups became upset over their loss of control, and were baffled about how to deal with problems of modernity and wealth. They fell back on old habits, and Chairman Xi finished the process, reestablishing central control. China has always had a disciplined patriotic populace, but its internal debt problems and insane misdirection of capital under CCP control (especially at the local level) has radically undermined their success.

We Will See.

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My prediction is that China is going to march into Taiwan in next few years (just as they did in HongKong). No one will do anything. This is flexing military superiority and financial and manufacturing might.

A multipolar world has emerged.

Hmmm. I guess you mean either “swim” or “snorkel”. Taiwan is an island with a very very wide strait separating it from China. Oh you are thinking boats! China has a little trouble with naval battles, see history, and Taiwan has developed some persuasively high tech countermeasures of multiple forms. I am betting on Taiwan. Now, of course, China may choose to go nuclear to make it clear they will assert their claim to sovereignty come hell or high water…. and that would have profoundly unpredictable side effects.

LOL. That was a very very different island, and, hey, UKofGB had surrendered Hong Kong to them much earlier than the marching occurred…. Do you see the difference?

Yes. And?

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Well, the lease was up. The rule of law applied. A wonderful world when the laws are obeyed.

JimA

China has ships. It will be a swift take over and a display of overwhelming might.

Agreed! But the lease was for the “New Territories” adjacent to the island of Hong Kong. Hong Kong itself had been sold to UKofGB long ago.

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Now you are being silly. Ships can be readily sunk, but an island is a bit more difficult to destroy. Taiwan has been carefully studying, copying, and amplifying Ukraine’s stunningly successful naval drone attack tactics, on top of their multiple other “Taiwan as hedgehog” defense plans and expenditures.

Uncertainty is the main player in this game.

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But Taiwan can easily be made unlivable by bombardment. This method is the modern way as used in Ukraine, Gaza, and Syria.

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