OT: Anyone have a good alternative to Google search?

Having been a user for decades the new Google search layout is an abomination.

Can anyone, please, suggest a cleaner alternative?

Thanks in advance!

The Captain

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I now use AI for all my searches. Either Google Gemini, ChatGPT or Perplexity. Sometimes more than one.

Wendy

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Thanks but I want human input. AI does not do fact checking, not yet. For someone technically inclined I’m a late adopter. :slight_smile:

The Captain

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Ai has been a disappointment for me. Generalized summaries in place of the actual studies that I am looking for.

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Perplexity has links to the original research.
Wendy

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I use Duck Duck Go. Wuit using Google a long time ago.

Duck Duck Go also has a browser and an AI

Cheers
Qazulight

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The ā€œgroundingā€ is connecting your AI search with verifiable sources. There are ways you can invoke that.

I gave Duck Duck Go a try. Looks good. Thanks!

The Captain

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This is what Duck Duck had to say:

3 days agoGrounding with Vertex AI Search; Grounding with your search API; Grounding responses using RAG; … In generative AI, grounding is the ability to connect model output to verifiable sources of information. If you provide models with access to specific data sources, then grounding tethers their output to these data and reduces the chances of …

I just want to search the Internet in the old fashioned way. :slight_smile:

Thanks!

The Captain

You don’t have to provide sources… But then you are not computer illiterate…

My beef is not with Google search qua search. My beef is the destruction of the user interface. The output used to be a simple list, easy to browse. When I search my website Google still uses the old, easy to browse list

Compare with the new …

Is there a way to reduce the clutter? The search itself is good, it’s the new output that is a confusing clutter.

The Captain

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If you click on the ā€œWebā€ at the top you get links only. I like the new format. I am so glad not to see those old links. :slight_smile: multi-modal response is awesome.

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When I do google searches I get nothing that looks like your new pages. My results all look like your ā€˜old, easy to browse list’. Hmmm???

JimA

Got it! Thanks!

Sobre gustos y colores no han escrito los autores…
To each to his own.

Kingran solved the problem! Click Web, hide the clutter! :winking_face_with_tongue:

The Captain

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Google has never had human input to get its search results. Unless you count all the SEO (search engine optimization that people do to trick Google to rank them higher)
If you want human input you have to go back to the original Yahoo, which was a human created hierarchical list IRCC.

Most of the AI chat tools try and answer a question rather than give you a ranked list of places where you might find the answer. I sometime need/want one or the other. When I want the list of links I just scroll down past the (beta?) AI answers from Google Gemini

Mike

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There’s no money for the search providers like Google and Bing in that.

Your search results must be contaminated with ads and ā€œsponsored linksā€.

intercst

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i can live with that. When I was preparing to go to Silicon Valley I used the ads in magazines to figure out where to go. ZIP codes and telephone area codes proved to be valuable information:

  • Silicon Valley
  • Boston Route 128
  • Redmond, WA
  • Austin, TX

The Captain

Edit: I should have mentioned that there are two kinds of SEO:

  • White hat
  • Black hat

Of course Black hat SEO gives the profession a bad name but, sadly, there are Black hats in every profession. Google worked hard trying to prevent Black hat SEO.

The Goggle search method fascinated me. Directories are clunky and searching old fashioned libraries was hugely inefficient and time consuming. Google search obsoleted my encyclopaedia which had been my companion for decades.

Definitely a step up from the original search engine, tho…

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I switched to duckduckgo a long time ago because Google collected my information. Never looked back…doc