Google AI vs. ChatGPT

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I have been using ChatGPT more and more frequently. I’m now using it preferentially to Google searches because I can ask detailed questions and get amazingly detailed answers.

Google doesn’t like that.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/google-takes-aim-at-ai-firms-challenging-its-search-dominance-917633a0?mod=hp_lead_pos2

Google Takes Aim at AI Firms Challenging Its Search Dominance

Company is rolling out feature that will answer search queries in chatbot-style conversation without classic blue links

By Katherine Blunt, The Wall Street Journal, May 20, 2025

Key Points

  • Google is overhauling its search engine with “AI Mode” to rival AI chatbots like ChatGPT.

  • AI Mode answers queries in chatbot-style, differing from the standard list of blue links.

Google plans to integrate ads within AI Mode and allow virtual try-ons for online shopping… [end quote]

This morning, I asked ChatGPT to recommend a dishwasher < $1,000 with high reliability and that didn’t have a filter. (The higher-end Bosch models have a filter in the bottom and I don’t feel like getting on my knees and reaching to get it out.)

ChatGPT recommended specific models of GE, Whirlpool and Maytag washers complete with detailed descriptions and customer reviews (positive and negative). Very impressive!

After reading this article I went to Google and asked for Google AI. I asked Google AI the same question and got a general answer with no specific models.

My vote: ChatGPT won, hands down!

I have been feeding DH’s detailed medical test reports into ChatGPT. (DH, a 50 year smoker, has lung nodules and has had CT, PET-CT and pulmonary function testing.) ChatGPT chews them up and returns detailed analyses and recommendations. It makes life-or-death recommendations such as guiding DH away from surgery and toward radiation should the nodules be malignant. (DH will be having a biopsy the day after tomorrow.)

I also tried Perplexity AI but it said that he is in more danger from his coronary calcification (an incidental finding on CT) than his lung nodules.

DH doesn’t like it when I “play doctor” but I feel better knowing what the research says.

Within a couple of weeks we will find out what the real doctors say.

Meanwhile, ChatGPT is way ahead of Google AI.
Wendy

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But are the answers correct?

Steve

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That’s a good question.
The dishwashers come with references that can be clicked.

The choice of medical treatment is complex and truly a judgment call. I fed all the detailed test results into ChatGPT. The analysis was well-balanced and came with links to references. I will attach it. See what you think. Keep in mind that DH will have a lung biopsy on Thursday. We don’t know yet whether he actually has lung cancer.

Comparative Outcomes: Surgery vs. SBRT for patients with Lung Cancer and Emphysema

When evaluating treatment options for early-stage non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC) in patients with moderate to severe emphysema and significantly reduced diffusing capacity of the lungs for carbon monoxide (DLCO), both surgical resection and Stereotactic Body Radiation Therapy (SBRT) are considered. The choice between these modalities depends on multiple factors, including pulmonary function, comorbidities, and patient preferences.

Overall Survival (OS)

  • Surgery: Generally associated with superior long-term Overall Survival (OS) compared to SBRT (radiation). A meta-analysis involving 29,511 patients indicated better 3-year OS for surgery (Hazard Ratio [HR] = 1.35). In subgroup analysis for cancer-specific survival, no significant difference was detected between the sublobar resection subgroup and the SBRT group. SBRT produced Local Control results similar to those of surgery regardless of the extent of surgical resection.
  • [That is, regardless of whether only a small piece or a lobe of the lung was removed the radiation controlled the local return of lung cancer just as well. (2022) It’s likely that the SBRT patients were in poorer health than the surgery patients to start with (that’s why they were inoperable). Which is probably why they had lower Overall Survival even though they had the same cancer-specific survival risk as the surgery patients – they died from their other diseases. – W]
  • PubMed
  • SBRT: While SBRT offers a non-invasive alternative, some studies have shown lower OS rates compared to surgery. However, in certain high-risk populations, the difference in OS may not be statistically significant. (2014) .PubMed

Cancer-Specific Survival (CSS)

  • Surgical intervention often results in better CSS. However, in patients with significant comorbidities or poor pulmonary reserve, the difference in CSS between surgery and SBRT may be minimal.

Local Control (LC)

  • Both modalities demonstrate comparable local control rates. SBRT has shown LC outcomes similar to surgery, making it a viable option for patients who are not surgical candidates .PubMed+1PMC+1PubMed

Treatment-Related Morbidity and Mortality

  • Surgery: Associated with higher perioperative risks, especially in patients with compromised pulmonary function. Complications such as infections and respiratory issues are more common post-surgery .Red Journal
  • SBRT: Offers a lower risk profile with minimal acute toxicity, making it suitable for patients with significant comorbidities or those deemed inoperable. ACS Publications+1PMC+1

Considerations for Patients with Low DLCO and Emphysema

In patients with significantly reduced DLCO and moderate to severe emphysema, the risks associated with surgical resection increase. SBRT provides a non-invasive alternative with acceptable oncologic outcomes and a more favorable safety profile. However, the decision should be individualized, considering the patient’s overall health status, pulmonary function, and preferences.

Conclusion

For patients with early-stage NSCLC and compromised pulmonary function due to emphysema and low DLCO, SBRT emerges as a compelling treatment option, offering comparable local control and a lower risk of treatment-related complications. Nonetheless, surgical resection may provide superior overall and cancer-specific survival in select patients with adequate pulmonary reserve. A multidisciplinary evaluation is essential to tailor the optimal treatment strategy for each patient.

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I think I don’t know enough about the subject to make any reasoned judgement. Meanwhile, my cousin was supposed to meet with docs today about his liver transplant priority. I was talking with his husband a few weeks ago, and he thinks Rick is doomed, due to the number of other things wrong with him. Again, I have no background to judge his chances.

Steve

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I am accumulating Google.

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Dear Wendy,

I have a marketing company I use. The company markets itself with educational programming on Tuesdays. It is early days but search AI is coming in strong. Among younger people it is gaining a larger market share.

With Deepseek expert concepts and opensource code Google AI can catch up.

ChatGPT leads in AI search but more because people using ChatGPT directly use it for search. People do not use Google AI as purposely for search as of now. Google is changing that.

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Google said they are planning on adding advertising to their AI. I wonder if, when someone searches for information about dishwashers, if companies that have paid for ads will get some sort of preference in results. And I don’t necessarily mean in some nefarious way (like covering the whole first page of search results in paying-ad-only material), I mean that the AI itself would learn to do so because one of the AIs “prime directives” may be “do what’s good for google”.

And if the AI doesn’t have that as one of its “prime directives”, could competitors use the google AI to expand their own businesses at the expense of google’s business?

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Are you typing that query in the Google search field or are you going to Google Gemini (https://gemini.google.com/) to ask that question?

There might be a difference. I don’t have access to Gemini from work so I can’t test it to see.

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I went to the Google search field and asked for Google AI. They sent a link to Google AI and that’s what I used.
Wendy

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In that case I will avoid it. I’m looking for objectivity, not advertising.
Wendy

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No idea if that is any different but I use Gemini all the time for things you cannot get from the AI response in the Google search. You might try that resource instead as it is more akin to chatgpt.

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I am still evaluating Google “AI Mode”. Still on certain specific tasks, I find google better. I asked a simple question “I need shaving razor”, Google provided me with a list of products and specific product recommendations like pro’s and cons’.

OTOH, ChatGPT provided types of razors and no product recommendation, which is utterly useless. The below answer illustrates the superiority of google over CharGPT. Google understands the average “search” user and their intent way better.

Now, why ChatGPT is not able to provide product recommendations? Couple of reasons, because they are not in the business of selling ad’s, yet, or their model is focused on more engagement, so they want you to continue the dialogue. Their eventual model may be monetizing the # of input tokens.

Separately, Google Research is far superior to ChatGPT, especially for biotech, medical research.

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If you use Google Search to search, you can see the links for the ad’s in the side and below.

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Google Search is the “AI Mode” search.
gemini.google.com is the CharGPT equivalent.

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Be prepared to pay for it. ChatGPT is working on adding “ad’s”, if not you have to subscribe. BTW, you are comparing search with ChatGPT, you should compare gemini with ChatGPT.

Separately, google model is the undisputed leader. What it suffers from is, perception issue, and struggling with “innovator’s dilemma”.

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Can you post a link? I searched for a while to find an input similar to ChatGPT unsuccessfully. Google has Med-PaLM but I could only find descriptions, not a way to input data.

Wendy

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  1. go to “gemini.google.com”
  2. select deep research
  3. Prompt “use med-gemini”
  4. coronary calcification
  5. After the deep research is completed, ask it to create a web site,
  6. Find below the website for this…
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So I am home now and I copied and pasted exactly what you wrote above (bolded) and this was the result from Gemini:

You’re looking for a reliable dishwasher under $1,000 that handles food particles without a manual filter, which means you need a model with a hard food disposer (also known as a food grinder or chopper). This feature pulverizes food scraps during the wash cycle, eliminating the need for you to regularly clean a filter by hand.

Based on your criteria, here are a few highly reliable brands and specific models or series to consider that typically include a hard food disposer and fall within your budget:

1. GE Dishwashers (Many Models with Piranha Hard Food Disposer) GE is well-known for incorporating hard food disposers into many of their models, often referred to as the “Piranha Hard Food Disposer.” These are designed to pulverize food particles at high RPMs, preventing clogs. GE models generally offer good reliability and can be found well under $1,000.

  • Recommended Series/Models: Look for models in the GE GDT series or GDF series. For example:
    • GE GDT550PYRFS (or similar GDT/GDF models): These often come with the Piranha Hard Food Disposer, offer various wash cycles, and are frequently available in stainless steel finishes within your price range. They usually have a dBA (decibel) rating in the 50-55 range, which is considered quiet for a disposer model.

2. Maytag Dishwashers (Known for Dual Power Filtration with Chopper) Maytag, part of the Whirlpool family, is known for its robust appliances and often features a “Dual Power Filtration” system that includes a 4-blade stainless steel chopper. This system is designed to break down food particles without requiring filter maintenance. Maytag models are generally considered very reliable.

  • Recommended Series/Models: Look for models in the Maytag MDB series. For example:
    • Maytag MDB4949SKZ (or similar MDB models): These models typically feature the Dual Power Filtration system with the chopper, offer a PowerBlast cycle for tough messes, and are usually within the $600-$800 range, making them a strong contender for reliability and no manual filter. Their dBA ratings are often around 50 dBA.

3. Whirlpool Dishwashers (Many with Hard Food Disposer) Whirlpool also offers numerous dishwashers with built-in hard food disposers. They are a popular choice for their balance of features, performance, and price point.

  • Recommended Series/Models: Look for Whirlpool WDT series models. For example:
    • Whirlpool WDT540HAMZ (or similar WDT models): Many Whirlpool models in this range include a hard food disposer and are priced competitively, often around $600-$700. They typically have dBA ratings in the 50-55 range.

Key Features to Confirm When Shopping:

  • Hard Food Disposer: Always double-check the product specifications to ensure it explicitly states it has a hard food disposer, grinder, or chopper, and does not mention a removable/manual filter.
  • dBA Rating: Dishwashers with hard food disposers tend to be slightly louder than those with manual filters (which are usually 45 dBA or lower). Aim for something in the 50-55 dBA range for a good balance of performance and noise level.
  • Stainless Steel Tub: While not strictly necessary for performance, a stainless steel tub is more durable, resists odors better, and helps with drying. Many models in your price range offer this.

It appears Gemini did the same thing ChatGPT did (minus the reviews).

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ChatGPT is shockingly bad at poker

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Google I/O 2025 just laid out a future where AI is the core of everything, revolutionizing how customers search, discover, and buy.

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