OTT - The First Amendment

I wish we had a First Amendment here in the UK as we are rapidly becoming a police state:

Six police arrest couple for a posting criticism of a school on a Whatsapp group:

Just been sacked by Waitrose (UK supermarket) for political tweets on social media:

Arrested because an anti LGBTQ post unset someone:

The UK is rapidly becoming a failed police state where saying something that hurts someone’s feelings attracts more police attention than real crime.

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It’s the same thing here. We have a government investigating companies because they choose to have DEI programs. The far right has gone further nuts.

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You can borrow ours, we’re not using it anymore.

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Burning Teslas and engaging in violent terrorism is not free speech. You will get busted open.

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Who’s saying it is?

Pete

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I remember when it was forbidden to have a bad opinion of Greta. I remember when it was forbidden to have a contrary opinion of Covid. I remember when certain words were banned. We are free to say anything they like.

The Captain

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Suspect said it’s “free speech”

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Before Elon acquired Twitter for $44B, government was directing social media companies what should be censored and what posts should be deleted.

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It was “asking”, even “pressuring” social media sites to downplay or remove patently false information during a national emergency. It was not “censoring”, although that did happen. Zuck has now decided that they won’t do that anymore, just like RFKjr has decided that the agency charged with Public Health won’t promote measles (or other) vaccines anymore, and will instead rely on cod liver oil and massive doses of Vitamin A, which have been shown to be 1) ineffective in the first place and 2) dangerous to human health in the second. But hey, you do you.

Trump was indefinitely banned from Facebook, at least until his term ended

Because he violated the TOS? Your position is that companies should have no say in who gets on and who doesn’t?

A man accused of vandalizing several Tesla vehicles

And so he’s claiming free speech? OK, you found a nut job and that’s the basis of your argument. He’s clearly an idiot, so … um, not the most compelling reasoning.

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Precisely. You can always find some idiot who believes things that are contrary to the vast majority view or even against widely accepted morality.

Cherry-picking with some folks is the name of the game.

Here are a few others that the poster may find individuals with extreme views and foist them off as the general view of one particular political group:

  • Terrorism – Some extremists view acts of terrorism as a justified means to achieve political, religious, or ideological goals, but nearly all societies and legal systems classify such acts as criminal and morally reprehensible.
  • Vigilantism – While some individuals romanticize taking the law into their own hands, most legal systems consider extrajudicial punishment a crime and a threat to social order.
  • Political Assassination – Some radicals believe that killing a political leader they oppose is justifiable, but this is universally seen as a dangerous and unlawful act that undermines democratic institutions.
  • Ethnic Cleansing or Genocide – In extreme nationalist or supremacist circles, some advocate for the forced removal or extermination of certain groups, but such acts are widely recognized as crimes against humanity.
  • Coup d’État – Some factions may view overthrowing a government as necessary for political change, but in most cases, coups are seen as destabilizing and undemocratic.
  • Cyberterrorism and Hacking for Political Ends – Some activists justify large-scale hacking, data breaches, or cyberattacks as forms of protest or resistance, but governments and businesses consider them major security threats and crimes.
  • Eco-Terrorism – While environmental activism is widespread, a small fraction of extremists believe in using violence or sabotage to achieve ecological goals, which is broadly condemned.

Go for it.

Pete

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Oh you mean like people getting thrown into jail for protesting peaceful?

The administration of President Donald Trump has arrested a second student protester and set a deadline for Columbia University, one of the most prestigious campuses in the United States, to cede control of one of its academic departments.

I haven’t seen you say a word about this? Could it be that you really do not believe in Free Speech?

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Yep taking cheap shots at people used to be frowned upon.

What was she 15 years old and you were what 70?

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About thirty police kick in the door at a Quaker meeting house and arrest women planning a peaceful protest:

A police raid on a Quaker meeting house to arrest six women attending a protest meeting has been criticised as “ridiculously heavy-handed”.

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All of it knowingly sponsored by the White House–who knew all about it. Fauci didnt’t kill them. CSM KNOWINGLY killed them–and got caught in his own lies.

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A paid child actress?

70 - 15 = 55 years of added experience. She might learn.

The Captain

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She started out at age 15 with more knowledge than you.

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Amazing what you know about me. Do you have crystal balls?

The Captain

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