Putin implements "Plan Steve"

When the invasion of Ukraine started, I suggested Putin trade food and fuel to North Korea, for troops. That way Russian parents don’t get upset about their spawn coming home with pieces missing, or in a bag. And Kim gets the food and fuel his country needs.

The other takeaway is that NK has probably already sold all the arms and ammo to Putin that they can afford to.

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Might bring down both of them.

Who will be left to defend Kim?

All the people who have more food and fuel, because of his dealings with Putin?

Steve

More food? More fuel to arm a resistance against Kim.

How soon will we start reading stories of NK soldiers defecting to the west?

I just finished an article on the brutal tactics that are used to prevent defections. Retribution is for the WHOLE family, not just a loved one, but like generations of family.

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There was a guy on the “news” last night, saying the NK soldiers would all defect to “a western democracy”. I thought, “with their family back in NK? I don’t think so”

Steve

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So, how many of Russians in the Ukraine speak Korean? How many of the Koreans speak Russian?

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

DB2

It is only 12k men, including the 500 officers. They will get chewed up and spat out quickly.

It is only 12k men, including the 500 officers. They will get chewed up and spat out quickly.

The NK army has about 1.3M on active duty. Lots of cannon fodder for Putin to use to run the Ukrainians out of ammo.

Steve

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That is still quite a large number and I imagine they are better trained than their Russian counterparts, although early accounts suggest they under control of Russian commanders. Meat wave tactics are likely to continue.

My main takeaway is that this is a tacit admission that Russia cannot generate sufficient troop strength internally.

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Be interesting to see (say 5k) South Korean soldiers deployed to help Ukraine. A real nut-buster for Pute-Pute.

Why do you imagine this? Does NK have more resources to do training than Russia has?

I do not know about resources, but those responsible for training trainees in Russia are most likely more corrupt, and those in North Korea most likely more terrified of failing to please dear leader?

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Anything close to 100k sent to Ukraine leaves Kim Un’s flank exposed. Not in your wildest dreams. This is purely tokenism.

Various sources have reported that North Korea has compulsory military service for 10 years for most males.

Russia also technically has compulsory service for males, but is only for one year, and there are many exemptions. Conscripts by law cannot be deployed in combat. The mobiks who have been going to the front lines get about a month of training before being deployed.

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So, they sit in their barracks, because the country is too broke/spends so much on missiles and nukes, that there is no fuel or ammo for exercises? the NK army has not fought since 1953.

Steve

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Neither of them have the best and brightest leading anyone. The Russian youth with better minds fled long ago. The NK’s do not allow independent thought. Good luck finding an intelligent lieutenant or sergeant in a battle. Cannon fodder approach to life.

The drones won’t let most of them get to the front.

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That’s the general consensus. The Norks don’t have much money for fuel and ammo and relies on mostly antiquated equipment, so training involves lots of political indoctrination and not much shooting. As a result, most analysts assess North Korean troops as being highly disciplined but not very skilled.

North Korean military doctrine is based around massed infantry attacks supported by heavy artillery. Similar to Russia in that regard. So, they need poor slobs who are willing to charge into battle.

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I agree with all that, except for that last part. The Russians have a similar philosophy where they don’t want soldiers thinking/acting independently and so just order costly human wave assaults.

Ukraine doesn’t have enough fire power to stop it. Slow it them down to a crawl yes, but not stop it.