Russian gas to EU

Russia lowers gas flows to Europe with part stuck in Canada
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-canada-business-ba…
Russian natural gas deliveries through a key pipeline to Europe will drop by around 40% this year, state-controlled energy giant Gazprom said Tuesday, after Canadian sanctions over the war in Ukraine prevented German partner Siemens Energy from delivering overhauled equipment…

“Gas supplies to the Nord Stream gas pipeline can currently be provided in the amount of up to 100 million cubic meters per day (compared to) the planned volume of 167 million cubic meters per day,” Gazprom said in a statement…

Siemens Energy said a gas turbine that powers a compressor station on the pipeline had been in service for more than 10 years and had been taken to Montreal for a scheduled overhaul. But because of sanctions imposed by Canada, the company has been unable to return the equipment to the customer, Gazprom.

DB2

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DB2: “Gas supplies to the Nord Stream gas pipeline can currently be provided in the amount of up to 100 million cubic meters per day (compared to) the planned volume of 167 million cubic meters per day,” Gazprom said in a statement…

Siemens Energy said a gas turbine that powers a compressor station on the pipeline had been in service for more than 10 years and had been taken to Montreal for a scheduled overhaul. But because of sanctions imposed by Canada, the company has been unable to return the equipment to the customer, Gazprom.

Great news, you want sanctions you get sanctions. You want Russian gas delivered to Germany … you get sanctions. I’m guessing the Germans will just have to crank up all those solar panels and windfarms they have been been so proud of that never seem to be available when they need them most?

Anymouse

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/correction-ge…

Germany shuts down half of its 6 remaining nuclear plants

Germany has shut down half of the six nuclear plants it still has in operation

By Frank Jordans Associated Press

January 03, 2022, 10:18 AM

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/01/06/germanys-renewable-en…

Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France

January 6, 2019

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I’m guessing the Germans will just have to crank up all those solar panels and windfarms they have been been so proud of that never seem to be available when they need them most?
Anymouse

The Germans are burning more coal in order to keep the lights on. I looked at German electricity generation for the first 5 months of 2022, compared to last year. Below are the combined hard coal and brown coal (lignite) generation numbers for January through May.

Germany, hard and brown coal electric generation, Jan thru May
2021: 57,727 GWh
2022: 68,682 GWh

Power generation from coal (with the associated pollution and carbon emissions), is up about 19% this year, compared to last.

https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&…

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Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France

This can be seen in the following graph of Germany compared to France.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAqsjV0UIAA573d?format=jpg

Not only is Germany’s average higher, but the variation is much wider, going from 200 to 700 grams of CO2 per kwh, in a wide range. This is because of the intermittent nature of wind and solar. The sun goes down every evening, so there can be big differences day-to-day, and hour-to-hour for the power produced from the renewables. Some people think you can just add in enough batteries to even out those variations, but that is highly doubtful. The number of batteries needed and the associated cost of those batteries, which would be required to provide any more than a few hours of back up, would make Germany’s electricity even more expensive than it currently is. The Germans already pay some of the highest electricity rates in Europe.

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Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France

C’mon Pete you can see through that set of stats right? You are mixing the apples with oranges and not weeding out the mangos.

“Nuclear-Powered France” includes what 20% fossil fuels. Germany’s Renewables includes a huge amount of coal for this comparison.

How about some honesty in numbers? Playing with stats wont fool anyone else.

Germany has been caught flatfooted with this war.

Let me ask you for a disclaimer, if you are collecting or inline to collect or have stock in electric company(s) with nuclear power production please say so…LOL although it is very obvious who butters your toast.

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https://stopthesethings.com/2019/01/06/germanys-renewable-en…

Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France

January 6, 2019

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Tim posts the above anti wind industry propaganda from a website with the motto:

“We’re not here to debate the wind industry, we are here to DESTROY IT!”

The website is full of mistakes like the following:
Total CO2 emissions in 2019
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emi…
France 0.29GT
Germany 0.64GT

This shows that German CO2 emissions are a little over 2 times higher than France’s CO2 emissions in 2019 - NOT 10 times higher.

Funny that Tim posts garbage about energy and emissions when Canada is heavily going to wind power to get off of their coal, oil and natural gas consumption.

Jaak

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Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France

C’mon Pete you can see through that set of stats right? You are mixing the apples with oranges and not weeding out the mangos. “Nuclear-Powered France” includes what 20% fossil fuels. Germany’s Renewables includes a huge amount of coal for this comparison…Germany has been caught flatfooted with this war.

We don’t need no stinkin’ mangos. And the atmosphere don’t care about good intentions or a war in the Ukraine. By the way, the difference between Germany and France predate the current war. Looking at the top line, total energy consumption:

BP tells us that out of France’s total energy consumption, 49% emitted no carbon dioxide.
BP tells us that out of Germany’s total energy consumption, 23% emitted no carbon dioxide.
www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/business-sites/en/global/corporate…

DB2

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This shows that German CO2 emissions are a little over 2 times higher than France’s CO2 emissions in 2019 - NOT 10 times higher.

The 10x refers to the carbon intensity (CO2 per kWh) of electricity production.

DB2

DB2,

If we were debating with facts I would have my footing.

The fossil fuels guys can make up the facts faster than I can combat them. I do not know what sort of win that is for you.

Meanwhile I want deflationary energy sources.

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The 10x refers to the carbon intensity (CO2 per kWh) of electricity production.

These were the mangos I mentioned.

DB2,
If we were debating with facts I would have my footing.

Yes, it can get confusing. However, please go ahead and add some facts/analysis to the thread.

DB2

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DB2,

I have added the most important fact over and over again to all of these fuel/electricity threads. I keep saying it and all I get back are make believe things about cutting costs.

I keep saying nuclear and fossil fuels are inflationary over the long haul. That is all that matters. You are not using your toaster oven for one meal.

Then I keep saying the only fact that will ever matter to western economies, “wind and in particular solar power are deflationary”. I get back how they are expensive. LOL As if nuclear energy will save us money? As if wars for oil are saving us money?

I am the only one directly stating the only fact that matters on this entire board, again, solar in particular is deflationary.

Jaax keeps batting down all of your other arguments. You keep ignoring him as well. I am not the expert in any of this. How come the experts do not realize solar is so deflationary?

Your last argument on that noted how material costs went up recently for solar. As if that was the last word on it. Commodity prices will drop again. Life will resume as we know it.

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Germany shuts down half of its 6 remaining nuclear plants

Meanwhile just across the border France is serious about global warming vs keeping coalition governments in power? Plans to building at least six new reactors with possibility of a total of 14?

Tim <totally aced my Eye exam this morning … but I will need cataract surgery in the right one>

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/factbox-european-energy-al…

Reuters

Factbox-European energy alternatives after Nord Stream 1 gas flows drop

Nina Chestney Fri, June 17, 2022, 12:12 p.m.

Germany shuts down half of its 6 remaining nuclear plants

Meanwhile just across the border France is serious about global warming vs keeping coalition governments in power? Plans to building at least six new reactors with possibility of a total of 14?

Tim

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I hope France will not take 15+ years to build each of those six new reactors as they are doing with the one reactor (FLAMANVILLE-3) that they are still building after 15 years of construction.

https://pris.iaea.org/PRIS/CountryStatistics/ReactorDetails…

FLAMANVILLE-3 is also billions of euros over budget!

Jaak

From Leap1:
“Nuclear-Powered France” includes what 20% fossil fuels.

No. The big three fossil fuels (coal, natural gas and oil) combined make up about 9% of the electricity production. See numbers below from the IEA. Both the pre-pandemic 2019, as well as 2020, are shown as the latest years available. Amounts are in gigawatt-hours for the year listed.

France      2019      2019     2020     2020
           Amount   Percent   Amount  Percent
Coal        5873      1.0      5067     1.0
Oil         5914      1.0      5266     1.0
Nat Gas   39,314      6.9    35,203     6.6
Biomass     6471      1.1      6496     1.2
Waste       4575      0.8      4461     0.8
Nuclear  399,012     69.9   353,833    66.5   
Hydro     61,573     10.8    66,708    12.5
Tide         479      0.1       482     0.1
Wind      34,722      6.1    40,704     7.6
Solar     12,225      2.1    13,579     2.6
Other        558      0.1       508     0.1
Geotherm     128      0.0       128     0.0
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Total    570,844     100    532,435    100

https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/data-browser?country…

Some of those fossil fuels are used on islands such as Corsica and other remote areas that may not be connected to the French power grid.

Leap1:
Germany’s Renewables includes a huge amount of coal for this comparison."

That is a great description of how the intermittent renewables need to be backed up with fossil fuel generation, or some other kind of reliable dispatchable power. For a power grid to remain stable, the amount of power generated must always be exactly balanced with the amount of power being consumed at any given time. This is why dispatchable power is so important, so the grid operator can raise or lower production as conditions change throughout the day. The intermittent renewables are pretty much useless for that kind of service, which is needed 24 hours a day.

Leap1:
Let me ask you for a disclaimer, if you are collecting or inline to collect or have stock in electric company(s) with nuclear power production please say so…LOL although it is very obvious who butters your toast.

I wish!

Message to the nuclear power industry:
Hey nuclear power guys -
Where are you sending my checks?! I’m not getting them. Maybe we can set up some kind of direct deposit into my bank account? Please contact me.

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Pete,

Thanks for the corrections on the French data usage of fossil fuels. For an older man who heard the numbers decades ago on 60 Minutes updating me is a good idea.

Sorry you are not getting a pension from those guys.

But I maintain the only fact that matters solar is deflationary over the long haul. If you care about the western economies get with that.

Message to the nuclear power industry:
Hey nuclear power guys -
Where are you sending my checks?! I’m not getting them. Maybe we can set up some kind of direct deposit into my bank account? Please contact me.

- Pete

This is why I have Leap1 on ignore?

Without nuclear we aren’t going to make it. Even Hydro in US is having serious problems due to drought.

Tim

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“This is why I have Leap1 on ignore?”

There are plenty of other reasons available…

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This is why I have Leap1 on ignore?

Without nuclear we aren’t going to make it.

Tim,

This is why you are stuck with zero common sense.

For decades we have heard we need more nuclear power. The project costs are too high. No commercial company will build one in the US.

The Chinese government subsidies must be huge. There MUST be government injection of even more capital for the massive cost overruns.

But you know all so we are (NOT) building more nukes. At least as it has stood for decades now.

If wishes were horses we’d all ride.

It is not that I am against nuclear. I am, but I would never object if the US government funded more. I am passive on this topic.

What is the actual reality? I will hit you with it and you wont see it. To repeat with zero objections again from anyone here, solar in particular is a deflationary energy source. If you care about the western economies throw in with that.

As Musk has said paraphrasing slightly, the land generally around nuclear power plants in the US is enough acreage for a solar installation to produce more electricity than the nuclear power plant itself. Why assume nuclear is the only larger producer of electricity. This not just your southern roof exposure.

Good thing you have me on ignore. Sure.

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Neuromancer,

Hilarious!

I do not have tim on ignore because I am scoring points.

I am not hear to score likes. My insecurity level is not that high.

Thank you for recommending this post to our Best of feature.

This is why I have Leap1 on ignore?

Without nuclear we aren’t going to make it.

Tim,

This is why you are stuck with zero common sense.

LOL! Tru dat!

But Tim has everyone who disagrees with him on ignore.

Thus the often “zero common sense” in his posts.

Just so you know:

I’m in favor of solar collectors on rooftops to power the buildings (with extra sold into the grid).

I’m in favor of nuclear (the way we and the French do it NOT the way the Russians did/do).

Look at the bright side: We’ll all be dead of old age long before our debating opponents are proven wrong.:wink:

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