Semi OT: Climate change attitude poll

Hmmm.

Findings from a 2023 Survey of Adults Age 18 and Older

Question: Do you think climate change is caused entirely by human activities, caused mostly by human activities, caused about equally by human activities and natural changes in the environment, caused mostly by natural changes in the environment, or caused entirely by natural changes in the environment?

Percentage of adults who believe climate change is happening and say it is caused mostly or entirely by human activities.

         2018   2023
Overall   60%    49%
Dem       72     60
Indep     61     42
Rep       33     33

DB2

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The propaganda has worked remarkably well but is fading.

The Captain

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Can you or anyone show that this survey is a random/representative sample of adults age 18 and older?

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Whatever the propaganda, the results seem consistent across the years.

Here ya go:

This survey was conducted by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, with funding from The Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago (EPIC). Staff from NORC at the University of Chicago, The Associated Press, and EPIC collaborated on all aspects of the study.

Data were collected using both probability and non-probability sample sources. Interviews for this survey were conducted between January 31 - February 15, 2023, with adults age 18 and over representing the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The probability sample source is AmeriSpeak®, NORC’s probability-based panel designed to be representative of the U.S. household population…

Dynata provided 3,346 non-probability interviews with adults age 18 and over. The Dynata sample was derived based on quotas related to age, race and ethnicity, gender, and education…

Once the sample has been selected and fielded, and all the study data have been collected and made final, a raking process is used to adjust for any survey nonresponse as well as any noncoverage or under and oversampling in both probability and non-probability samples resulting from the study specific sample design. Raking variables for both the probability and nonprobability samples included age, gender, census region, race/ethnicity, and education. Population control totals for the raking variables were obtained from the 2022 Current Population Survey. The weighted data reflect the U.S. population of people age 18 and over.

DB2

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Are opinion polls reliable?

Lessons put to practical application.

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chuckle From the same site late last year.

Just goes to show that opinion is very fickle. 62% of all those surveyed (67% of Indies, 39% or Reps) say the government isn’t doing enough to combat climate change.

Overall, 74% acknowledge that climate change is happening.

So, basically people think it is happening and that government should do something to fix it but also think it is most likely caused by nature. :crazy_face:

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Taken over periods of time with consistent methods, yes.

@DrBob2
Thank you, these sections indicate that the sampling process is indeed not random.

And I don’t see any part which shows that the data are a random sample.
(or please direct me to the specific part that shows this, if it exists and you can find it, I don’t see it)

What I do see is a lot of effort to adjust the data to try to obtain a random sample, for example the sections I show above, with some parts bolded.

I am not saying surveys such as these do not have value, but obtaining a true random sample is not easy. We can see this challenge in polls that try to estimate election results, except in the election case we can measure the actual population polling outcome on election day and compare that to earlier poll results - which is how we know earlier polls are not capturing a random sample with respect to election day outcomes.

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The survey results show nothing of the sorts. I could be that. It could equally be that the science was taking hold in the public mind but some new propaganda has been taking hold to sway people to an erroneous opinion. All this survey says is “opinions are changing”.

I’m more interested in the science of what is happening and less in what the public believes in.

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This shows how well fossil fuel companies and FOX news have done at brain washing the conservative population.

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Science does not vote, the public does.

The Captain

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True. Climate science is not the same as climate policy.

DB2

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Exactly!!! !!! !!! !!! !! !

The Captain

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