SID Pick CAPS Portfolio?

If this already exists, forgive me. I know we all feel extreme gratitude for Saul’s - and others’ - massive generosity of spirit and time on this board. And I know Saul, you are a humble man who is uncomfortable “bragging.” So my asking for any more is like a hobo demanding dessert after being given a gigantic free meal. But this is such an unusual opportunity I thrust my plate out again…

Wouldn’t it be great to have a CAPS profile for this board, featuring all of Saul’s picks? And to place a link to it up by the Knowledge Base links?

Some will berate me for this saying this, but it seems like personal malpractice to try to beat a guy who has been consistently lighting it up like this. If you can’t beat Saul (and 99% of us can’t), surely, the majority should be attempting to join him. CAPS seems to offer the best way to do this.

Any other folks have an exchange like this with their better half? “Honey, there’s this incredible guy, Saul, he’s a stock picking golden goose.” “Well, why don’t you just pick all of HIS stocks, dingus?” This calls up an interesting philosophical/psychological question. Is the goal to maximize profits or to make your own profits?

Thoughts? Is it cool to post “best of” thoughts from this board on another SID entity? Volunteers to create/run the profile?

Best,

BD,
Former host of “CAPS Talk,” who thought by now the Fool would have 100s if not 1000s of member-centric newsletters, featuring countless styles, methods, industries, etc.

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Any other folks have an exchange like this with their better half? “Honey, there’s this incredible guy, Saul, he’s a stock picking golden goose.” “Well, why don’t you just pick all of HIS stocks, dingus?” This calls up an interesting philosophical/psychological question. Is the goal to maximize profits or to make your own profits?

My wife’s reply when I read those first 2 sentences to her: “Sounds about right”.

Regarding the concept of a “Saul’s Investing Discussion” CAPS page, I like the idea. I think for it to work well, some decent criteria would need to be set for how stocks are added or how the picks’ time periods are ended. Maybe a stock would be added as soon as it has initially been pitched here, with the pitch being confirmed as having some level of merit? Maybe a minimum # of Rec’s for the post initially pitching a new stock idea? It would present at least some time burden on whoever “ran” it. There wouldn’t be any good way to retroactively add picks that I can think of.

Regarding the “well, why don’t you just pick all of HIS stocks, dingus?” idea…that would be contrary to a key component of why this board is great. If everyone on the board had the same portfolio, the diversity of different companies might not be brought forth and vetted, and new ideas being brought to the board could decline. I agree with Saul that “we” should NOT simply blindly follow him. The more of us are out there managing our own portfolios (probably considerably more concentrated than would be advised by “conventional wisdom”/professional investment advisors), searching for the very best stock ideas around and then bringing them to the board with well-reasoned pitches looking at growth rates, etc., or deciphering how best to “value” companies that remain in their growth phases, the better this board can be.

volfan84
who struggles to avoid writing 50+ word sentences sometimes

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This calls up an interesting philosophical/psychological question. Is the goal to maximize profits or to make your own profits?

The answer is that people should take the opportunity to learn to pick great investments not to blindly follow someone else. Saul did not start this board to fish for you. Take the opportunity to learn to fish for yourself, your wife, and your family. Become your own golden goose!

Chris

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Regarding the “well, why don’t you just pick all of HIS stocks, dingus?” idea…that would be contrary to a key component of why this board is great. If everyone on the board had the same portfolio, the diversity of different companies might not be brought forth and vetted, and new ideas being brought to the board could decline. I agree with Saul that “we” should NOT simply blindly follow him. The more of us are out there managing our own portfolios (probably considerably more concentrated than would be advised by “conventional wisdom”/professional investment advisors), searching for the very best stock ideas around and then bringing them to the board with well-reasoned pitches looking at growth rates, etc., or deciphering how best to “value” companies that remain in their growth phases, the better this board can be.

Great run-on sentence. I couldn’t agree more! Learning to do what Saul does has been the most worthwhile endeavor…maybe of my entire life. And I don’t have to do it perfectly! Even Saul doesn’t do it perfectly! There are so many great companies out there (SaaS companies, for instance), that even if we quibble about which are absolutely best, we’re all bound to settle on several that are excellent. (e.g. What I missed in Nutanix I’ve made up for in Wix.)

The key is understanding why companies are good, or not good (http://boards.fool.com/what-makes-a-company-good-32969538.as…). Saul’s Westport explanation says it quite well. Gross Margin is a big factor. Recurring revenue is a big factor. It’s impossible to get it perfect, but if you know a few key things you can really increase your odds of success with each company. If you succeed with a majority of your picks, you’ll do REALLY well.

We can all learn to do this. It took me a while, but as I said above, it’s been so worth it.

Bear

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The problem with CAPS is that it doesn’t reflect real investing in any way (Or at least thats how I have always felt about it). You just thumbs up or down, and its an equal weight “portfolio”. There are no weightings (Uhm, slightly important in a real money portfolio), you cant add or trim a position either. I cant understand all these people there with 99.97 scores. Are they real life billionaires? :slight_smile: Since every pick they make is basically correct, they should be right? :wink:

Best,
Matt

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VolFan - I nominate you, the hardest working man in Fooldom. Your efforts are appreciated. :>

Chris - I have given your posts many recs and value and respect your thoughts. I really do. And yes I would like to develop killer analytical skills. That said, I personally no longer tell anyone else what they should do. My main point is that making it easy to quickly and efficiently figure out exactly what the Saul picks are, on CAPS, would make the board even more effective. There are two valuable ways to use this board: learn the method and pick for yourself, or just make most of the same picks being made here. Regardless of why Saul started this board, he is sharing picks that are making a lot of money and it’s entirely reasonable to join him in those picks with as little, or as much, study as one likes. Blindly following Saul or making one’s own picks come with their own risks and trade offs. That said I do think we should all try to add actual value to the board’s mission - finding growth stocks - and I personally would like to up my game here, if only by finding off-the-beaten-path info about the “squishier” elements of these companies - leadership, messaging, marketing, etc.


Since this is kind of OT I’m adding this to its own section below and hoping this doesn’t contribute to a board-clogging long thread. I do think it’s a useful consideration for all rookie/mid-level Fools…

Some of us may have a golden goose skill, which is merely identifying golden gooses and picking the most inspired/valuable eggs they lay. I feel my skill is exactly this: identifying brilliant, decent, mature, wise people who know who they are, who are articulate, have a methodology and make picks aligned with their personality/methodology/passion. Time and again I seem to know who is going to have a good season in sports or win a game - you can feel the energy, commitment, alignment of players and teams. As I noted earlier, the Spurs Gregg Popovich really seems to get this as well.

Over my years in Fooldom, I have needed very little time watching the likes of Bezos, Hastings, Ullal, Tom and David Gardner, Bill Mann, David Kretzmann, Saul Rosenthal, and many others to know true greatness when I see it. I look for companies run by men who seem to be doing what they were meant to be doing. I look for picks that are most closely aligned with the stock picker. For example, Tim Beyers is a Rule Breaker and passionate techie/media analyst. When he lost his mind for Marvel, prior to it getting acquired by Disney, that was enough for me. The basic logic seemed flawless. And I made a great score doing very little work. It was the right pick by the right analyst at the right time. I value alignment highly. This is why I value Tim’s passion for HUBS more than the doubts expressed by other brilliant Fools. I think Tim’s skill set, experience makes him better qualified to analyze that stock. But I agree with you, never to go in totally blind. That will backfire as one who blindly follows another stock picker is likely to get shaken out in turbulence. I love what I see from HUBS in terms of the quality of their work and I’m very familiar with Seth Godin’s work which has influenced Hubspot from day one.

Investing our finite time is a serious choice that comes with major opportunity cost. I’ll bet flying planes is an extraordinarily powerful, liberating human experience. But I don’t want to learn how to fly. I just want to get from point A to point B as quickly and simply as possible. Pilots may suggest that I try it. But it’s for them to tell me what I should do with my limited time that could run out at any second.

I respect and appreciate your passion for all Fools to become their own Golden Gooses. And one thing I’m certain we agree 100% on is that every Fool is 100% responsible for his own picks - even if he is just blindly following others. The ultimate sin in Fooldom is to blame others for your own misfortune. Even if I pick all Saul stocks just because he posted them, the responsibility is totally my own. And it is important to keep the energy positive and clean by making this explicitly clear. Saul bears no responsibility whatsoever for anyone else’s money.

Bottom line: Hopefully I’m broadening the definition what it means to be one’s own golden goose. Remember, we are MOTLEY Fools. I’ve always played most strongly to the “Amuse” section of the “Educate. Amuse. Enrich.” mission. To paraphrase the Bard, “This above all, to thine own Foolishness be true.”

Fool On,

BD

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FWIW, I will never post again here anything but pure-value posts directly aligned with the mission - finding growth stocks that could crush the market. The board is fine as is. It’s clear that’s what the people want and as the Kinks said, “Give the people what they want.”

“Give the people what they want.”

Some want fish. Some want to learn how to fish. :wink:

Denny Schlesinger

If you could invest and average 50% annualized returns over 15 years, but nobody would ever know …

… or …

if you could make 110% returns on CAPS until your last breath and everyone would know …

Which would you choose?

If you have to think about it, please let me know. There are too many posts here to read anyway.

Dan