Waaay OT. Quantum breakthrough or YT bs?

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Back in Feb 2025 MSFT said they had a major breakthrough in quantum compute.
Some kind of “sliding” electron/s on a wire state, that can easily scale to millions.

Then the naysayers said nay. It weren’t so.

This YT says it’s more. Way more.

Water freezes at 0C cause the atoms AGREE to.

Spider silk self organizes. Cause the atoms AGREE to.

My imagination self chaoses cause that’s what it does:
The megaliths of Stonehenge, Macchu Pichu, the great pyramids… Self organize. Cause they agree to.

A wormhole self organizes between my front door n Yellowknife CA, n I pop over to see the Aurora.

I can’t wait!
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ralph

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Aw, c’mon Ralph. The word “agree” implies a consciousness that would enable them to disagree. Physics and chemistry describe forces (such as electrostatic forces, free energy, entropy and many more) that control the behavior of matter. Hydrogen bonding causes water to freeze and spider silk proteins to self-organize.

At very, very small scales and very, very cold temperatures matter can behave differently than in conditions we are more familiar with.

But of course you were kidding. Wormhole, LOL!
Wendy

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Wendy, you might want to read At Home in the Universe by Stuart Kauffman, my favirite Complexity scientist.

At Home in the Universe: The Search for the Laws of Self-Organization and Complexity

The Captain

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This is a very good sales job.

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I AGREE! LOLOL.
But, that’s the word that the YT uses.
At 11:58 “the reason water freezes at 0C… because its atoms agree to”

At the 5:00 minutes he says ’ this forth state was always here, hidden in plain sight, in the way that spider silk self assembles… ’ ie, the quantum state functions at room temperature. And at absolute zero.

at 6:20 he says that topological conductors (the quantum, ‘Forth’, state of matter) has a memory. Smash your cell phone and it’ll self assemble back into a cell phone. Cause its ‘topology’ is encoded in every atom.

This ‘encoding’ is what allows MSFT’s quantum computer to reliably ‘store’ information.
7:00 MSFT’s quantum computer does not need to be colder than deep space, it ‘thrives in chaos’. They are not just stable, they are ‘antifragile’.

07:20 “topological conductor isn’t materials science, it’s math.” The YT describes MSFT buying the patents for Electron Brading (from a reclusive Russian Mathematician).

8:50 MSFT quantum machine runs at room temp. MSFT poured liquid nitrogen on it, zapped it with a tazer’… it thrived.
MSFT’s “topological materials don’t fight chaos, they consume it”.

11:00 DoE just ‘green lit a Quantum Foundry in Washington State’.

12:08 “topological conductors… their atoms argue. … (the atoms have) CHOICE…”

I agree. The word ‘Agree’ implies ‘consciousness’. Which caused the topological conductors in my brain to ‘fight chaos’ in a sci-fi way.
LOLOL.

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ralph

Investing? I was looking for info to verify the ‘DoE 5B$ Quantum Foundry in WA state’ and found this:

IonQ to Open First Quantum Computing Manufacturing Facility in the U.S., Supported by the U.S. Congressional Delegation From Washington State -January 20, 2023 at 08:02 am EST | MarketScreener.
{ In 2022, IonQ and the U.S. Department of Energy’s Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) announced that their public-private partnership had yielded a sustainable and robust supply of barium qubits for IonQ’s next generation of barium-based quantum computers. Additionally, IonQ’s quantum systems are available on the two major cloud platforms from the region — Amazon Braket and Azure Quantum. }

I knew IONQ was working on ‘room temp’ quantum compute, and had partnerships/agreements with several companies (ie MSFT), but this Marketscreener article gives more color.

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It is in fashion to look for a rube who will believe things have intelligence.

Honesty in advertising need not apply.

Show me the money.

A dog playing fetch has far more intelligence than AI playing fetch.

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The worm and the hole disagree: Who gets top billing? And for how long? Compensation allocation? And…

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Yeah, uh, no. What Microsoft and others are doing in this area is really cool, but it isn’t that.

Here is the sitch as I understand it: As we know in computing, a bit is either 0 or 1. On or off. In quantum computing, a bit (qubit) represented by a quantum state can be any value from 0 to 1 at the same time. A quantum state for example could be electron spin, which is either up or down. 0 could be down and 1 could be up. But it is all based probability. As per Heisenberg, you can’t measure a quantum state without losing other information. This is true even for accidental measurements, which is why qubits are stored at 0.05 degrees Kelvin in a vacuum. Even the smallest vibration or photon from the outside world can collapse the qubit. Even with these protections, quantum computers have unacceptably high rates of error.

In this case, Microsoft (through a process I don’t understand, using a quantum particle I’ve never heard of) has been able to store the quantum state of an electron pair on a wire, that is part superconducting and part semi-conducting, which makes each qubit far more stable. The process still occurs at 0.05 Kelvin.

Microsoft’s chip stores (IIRC) eight qubits safely. They need millions, but hey, eight is more than zero.

The thing about your cell phone reassembling itself? No. That’s not what this is. Information is not being stored on the atoms themselves. It is being stored in a topological state in highly artificial conditions.

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0.05 Kelvin is just above -460 F.

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Yes, far below the operating temperature of most cell phones.

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IONQ is working to bring quantum compute to room temperature. That’s the concept that differentiates IONQ from the other 5 or so quantum compute companies that I’m aware of.

IonQ Announces Innovations in Compact, Room-Temperature Quantum Computing through Novel Extreme High Vacuum (XHV) Technology.

I think the concepts elucidated in the OP are best described as “far-fetched”.

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ralph owns some IONQ.

I didn’t know that IONQ was working with MSFT quantum folks, til I dove into this.

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And the costs…oh…I donno…