An Israel-Iran ceasefire?

This is such great news for Iran and China. :wink:

Today I am pronouncing that everyone in the United States has the right to free speach. You can thank me by giving me the noble peace prize…PLEASE!!!

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Check out Baluchistan, genocide, China BRI port Gwadar, the railway up through Baluchistan to western China, n the minerals being mined n hauled out of Baluchistan.

India might align with Baluchistan n put a squeeze on Pakistan Karachi ruling party.

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Exactly the sort of foreign policy mess that is coming for them, as none of their neighbors trust them.

Internally, their best and brightest either go in for ever more horrific forms of corruption and short term gain or leave for lives abroad.

Their biggest crucial resource is the ancient agriculturally extravagantly rich Indus valley, which they have so mismanaged as to simultaneously face saline poisoning, recurrent and each time bigger still destructive massive flooding, and a peasant class that feels betrayed.

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Pakistan wants Trump to intervene between India and Pakistan on kashmir issue. In the recent years, India had successfully managed to insert terrorism clauses for loans from WB, IMF, so Pakistan wants US to help them in getting loans from international bodies. .

US forgot that Osama was provided safe harbor in their military cantonment, Pakistan’s past patronage of Taliban. The current administration considers Pakistan as their friend and ally in their fight against terrorism. And Trump invited pakistani military chief without any civilian leaders in to WH. US always liked military leaders and dictators. If you are not a western nation then we don’t like democracies. :frowning:

Pakistan has nothing to lose but to gain everything. They have mastered the art of playing close to china, and playing close to US and receive billion in “military aid”.

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I see a lot of chicken littles.

It is well orchestrated by Trump.

Oh wait our side could have done better…in what way? Tell me. I need to know we do things and stand for things to be done. Please tell me what policies we have. I need to know, seriously.

Don’t tell me I am voting with you just because.

This is important. Iran’s calculous for exporting oil and gas and for enriching U and developing a bomb have been altered. The US acts. Israel acts.

An agreement with the West would lift sanctions.

Oil exports are down.

Google AI

While there have been reports of Israeli attacks on Iranian energy infrastructure, there’s no evidence to suggest that Israel has destroyed a significant portion of Iran’s oil production. Exports from Kharg Island, a major Iranian oil export hub, have been affected, but Iran still maintains a considerable oil production capacity.

Here’s a more detailed breakdown:

  • Targeted Facilities:

Israel has struck several Iranian oil and gas facilities, including the South Pars gas field, Fajr Jam gas plant, Shahran oil depot, Shahr Rey oil refinery, and Tehran fuel depots, according to Al Jazeera.

  • Impact on Exports:

Exports from Kharg Island, where 90% of Iran’s crude oil and condensate exports are loaded, have been significantly impacted, according to Reuters.

  • Continued Production:

Despite the attacks, Iran remains a significant oil producer, and reports indicate that the country is still exporting oil, albeit potentially at reduced levels.

That is the caste system in the days of cellphones and SM. You can not hide how disgraceful the system is.

The rich need to share and educated like grown ups. Treating people as poor slaves won’t cut it.

“Today I am pronouncing that everyone in the United States has the right to free speach.”

I am personally bestowing upon Americans the right to breathe, any time they want. Some people say the air quality is the greatest it’s ever been, since I’ve put my focus upon it.

And I am personally guaranteeing that the sun will set in the west, and still rise in the east. Some people want to change that, but I will never allow it. Make America Bellicose Again.

Anybody hear the clip of him dropping an F bomb in a tirade earlier ? Always classy

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I would hope so as a kind of beginning of things. Actually telling us something would help.

This was an attempt to save Israel, who was going to lose this exchange if it continued only between them and Iran.

We did not “obliterate” Iran’s capabilities. They moved everything out because Trump cannot keep secrets secrets and keeps trying to be a loud mouth on social media. For him this is all about the show, and that is not how you run foreign policy. Especially in war.

They still have enriched uranium. Probably a lot of their machinery. Even we are admitting that now. We’ve set them back, less than a year. They can still have a bomb. With this cessation of violence they can get back to actually building it. This is a win for Iran. They are playing a long game. Trump cannot think past tomorrow and only wants his “prize”.

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Israel would be defenseless. Yes.

But Israel could dish out far more than Iran can. So both of them would lose.

Both of them would, when it came to IT, probably vanish…with radioactive traces.

Sadly that is the only way some cultures learn. It would be devastating but at least they would have peace.

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Na, the question is how long will it hold. It isn’t as if all the Iran-backed entities will throw down their arms forever.

And Bibi will find yet another reason to bomb Iran - who in the words of Bibi, has been within weeks of a nuke since the start of this century.

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Neither culture is the problem.

BTW as an American you might want to wonder about your own culture.

Because Iran has killed millions of Arabs and it is not really about Israel.

The USA has cut Iran off from the global economy.

The reason the Iranians want nukes is to kill Americans.

Challenge, try to disagree with that. I will have my laughs reading your comments.

How many times do you have to be reminded, Israel is our ally.

It’s already building.

The assessment found that Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed, two of the people familiar said, and one of the sources said the centrifuges were largely intact.

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So the President says the Nuclear site was obliterated and the Vice President says it was set back 2 to 3 months. These guys need to get their story straight. You really need to read this. I have never seen an administration disagree so much with each other.

Alarmingly, Vance was then asked “exactly when” Trump made the decision for the strikes, to which the VP stuttered and said, “I don’t know that any of us knew exactly when the president made the decision, except for the president himself.” When pushed for more specifics on his decision, Vance added, “The final decision, of course, is made right before…that was last night.”

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France has so much confidence in the US assessment that their going to conduct their own.

Good thing the FBI and DHS are moving staff back to focus on counter-terrorism efforts…

This Whack-a-Mole administration is bonkers!

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