OT:Israel Has Minor Official Run This Up the Flagpole

he called for Israel to have full control over both Syria and Lebanon, on top of annexing Gaza and the West Bank.

The comments take on more relevance as Israel is already actively occupying parts of southern Lebanon and southwestern Syria, and the far-right is increasingly advocating for an expansion of that.

Just checking if Greater Israel can expand even further.
I dunno. Seems a bit of a excessive response to the initial Hamas October Attack upon Israel.

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But, we are told, we can’t criticize Israel, because it’s a democracy. Speech against Israel, on any topic, is, by definition, “anti-Semitic” thus a prosecutable hate crime.

Steve

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Is this a case of history repeats itself. Czechoslovakia lost the Sudetenland in 1938. Then the nation that absorbed Sudetenland had a puppet break off most of the remainder of Czechoslovakia in 1939 and created a new state that allied with its sponser.

I’m thinking “manifest destiny”.

Steve

Israel has finally shed the social pipe dreams and is facing reality. WWII would not have happened had the Great War not ended with an armistice but instead in the utter humiliation of Japan and Germany that killed off their militarism doctrines. Iran needs the same treatment to save it from itself. Russia is sure getting a good dose of reality. Any complaints about that? Or is there something special about the Land of Miracles?

The Captain

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Look at the source. It’s Antiwar.com reporting on the fringiest of the fringe in Israel.

Don’t get your knickers in a twist. It’s propaganda. Ignore it.
Wendy

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umm…Japan was an ally of the UK on the first go around.

Didn’t some orange buffoon make that same mistake recently?

Steve

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Strange bedfellows!

We are not supposed to talk politics, at least not American politics.

The Captain

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Someone once said words to the effect “the British Empire does not have allies, only interests”. The UK used Japan to keep tabs on German and Russian ambitions in the far east. The UK also made a tidy packet selling arms and ships to Japan. Somewhere in my files, I have a map of the German colonies in the Pacific, which grew more numerous after Germany purchased the remaining Spanish holdings, after the US seized the Philippines and Guam. During WWI, the Japanese overran most of the German islands. After the war, the League of Nations gave Japan all the former colonies north of the Equator, and gave all the former German colonies south of the Equator to Australia. After the war, with Germany run out of town, and Russia still dealing with the effects of it’s revolution, the alliance with Japan was less useful. The US wanted the alliance broken. The UK/Japanese alliance was broken in the Washington treaties of 1922.

Steve

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Never stopped you before. So why pretend it is stopping you now?

Oh yeah Israel is not European. I forgot about the specialness of it all.

That is just Jewish propaganda!

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I had heard the quip about “only interests.” My knowledge of modern history pre Treaty of Versailles is quite limited. Thanks for the comments.

The Captain

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Antiwar .com is indeed a fringe new website that pushes for non-interventionism abroad. Can’t have that can we?

Free speech is great. Extracting one fringe article and generalizing from it… need to use common sense along with free speech.

Wendy (For everything there is a season … a time for war, a time for peace)

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I’m on my other computer now. Here is the map of the German Pacific colonies, as of 1914. The Marianas, Carolines, and Palau were all purchased from Spain, after the US seized the real jems from Spain in 1898. iirc, the US did pay Spain to abandon it’s claims to the Philippines and Guam. That little notch in the border at the south end of the Marianas is Guam. If the US had decided to ask Spain to hand over all the rest of it’s Pacific colonies, then Japan could not have occupied them, from 1914 into the early 1940s.

Steve

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Well at least we have someone watching over the world right?

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I agree with the sentiment, but the reality of the situation convinces me that this is not the time for war. War is planned and executed by leaders. The three leaders tangled up in this mess cannot be trusted to resolve the conflict.

Bibi is clinging to power through military interventionism. What happens when this conflict is over, who’s next?

This is the perfect time for war. Strike while the iron is hot. Israel recently cleared away several strategic threats, giving them an opening to hit Iran and at least partially mitigate the constant threat.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/israel-iran-miscalculation-nuclear-targets-benjamin-netanyahu-e1a3f852?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

Wendy

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It the bald guy his valet? Very early in the vid, the bald guy looks at TIG with some concern.

His followers will say he was praying.

Steve