Blockbuster interview with former military “fraud, waste & abuse” investigator Luis Elizondo. Says that the disclosure of UFOs is being held up by a cabal of Christian evangelicals in the defense establishment known as the “Collins elite”. The Collins elite apparently see disclosure of the existence of superior extraterrestrial beings as a threat to Biblical orthodoxy.
I know that the Air Force Academy has had a big problem with White Supremacist bigotry due to the influence of the large number of Mega Churches in the Colorado Springs area and their proselytizing of the Air Force Academy student body over the past 30 years. No doubt many of these folks are now in both uniformed and civilian positions in the upper reaches of the defense hierarchy.
ABC News story on Jewish discrimination at Air Force Academy
It depends on what you mean by trust. News Nation is rated nearly precisely in the middle of the left/right spectrum and one of the highest on reliability.
Oh, for sure it would. It would also be pretty unsettling, period, for most people I believe. Imagine not just knowing there is life elsewhere, but that the life out there is so advanced they can come here. To many people that is scary, knowing we are not king of the hill anymore. “People are dumb, panicky animals”.
I think any civilization that can travel light years, and remain alive, and remain sentient, and have a continuous transmission of knowledge from generation to generation (all necessary to do such travel), would be at least somewhat more advanced than our civilization, and our governments (with relative puny knowledge and capability) would have no chance of keeping them secret. Therefore … it didn’t happen.
And that’s just one problem with the “secret” assertion. There are scores more.
That doesn’t mean that there aren’t other civilizations out there. There are almost surely many of them, lots of galaxies, lots and lots and lots of stars, planets all over the place, odds are that a bunch of planets have been suitable for life to evolve over the billions of years. It’s just that the probability is very high that they are so far away from each other that the odds of them ever meeting are very very very low, close to nil.
The thinking in the scientific community is that advanced alien races are likely to be peaceful. If you have the ability to harness enough energy for interstellar travel, you also have the ability to blow up your civilization several times over, thus advanced races would need to curb any warlike tendencies.
Of course, inhabitants of Planet Earth currently live under the threat of self-immolation via nuclear war, and seem to be dealing with it.
The thinking in the scientific community is that advanced alien races are likely to be peaceful
A thoroughly self-serving belief on their part. They have zero basis for it. They don’t know because they can’t know.
If you have the ability to harness enough energy for interstellar travel, you also have the ability to blow up your civilization several times over, thus advanced races would need to curb any warlike tendencies.
Which can easily be done at the point of a gun. Or a phazer. Or can be done with each other but auslanders? They’re up for grabs. Maybe they’re racist xenophobes and treat us like Native Americans?
The serious space-man talk, phonily legitimized with sonorous, straight-faced intonations of “science” sounds just like church used to.
Or they could be sufficiently warlike that they simply vanquished the opposition.
And as a thought experiment is how do humans treat other intelligent species here on Earth? We put them in zoos and conduct medical experiments on them.
That’s the theory – that warlike civilizations wouldn’t exist long enough to attain an advanced level of civilization, they’d blow themselves up in war beforehand. Also, advanced civilizations wouldn’t be resource constrained – energy and matter are interchangable.
Of course, the aliens might be sportsmen, and come to Earth for the human trophy hunting.
How are you defining intelligent? You mean like chimps and such? Altho your point is still relevant. The Space Masters could treat us as unintelligent compared to them. Get the same results
Absolutely! If the aliens had any interest in killing us, we’d be dead already. They don’t need to make a trip here to do it.
In that News Nation interview, Alizondo’s wife mentioned that “green orbs” were following family members around the house and then disappearing by seamlessly traveling through the walls of the house. Sounds like they may have mastered the mechanics of the Quantum entanglement as a means of travel.
What if the theory is wrong? Why is a warlike civilization blowing itself up an endpoint? For example, what if the warlike civilization was so effective against its enemies that it didn’t blow itself up?
Or what if what–thus far–has happened on this planet, namely having the ability to destroy ourselves but not using it?
We have a datapoint of one and thus far the theory is wrong. What if our data are a billion trillion planets?
We’d like to meet an alien race and learn everything they know.
All these scenarios assume the aliens want the same thing. But they could view us the same way we view ants or mushrooms and wipe us out without a thought.
The Earth hasn’t advanced to the point where we have interstellar space travel yet. We still have time to blow ourselves up within the bounds of the theory.
One point in the theory is that benevolent aliens are alert for planets attaining the capability for nuclear fission, and then send undercover operatives to steer that planet from the brink. The alien visitations seem to have increased after Oppenheimer’s work at Los Alamos, NM.
Although Alizondo seems to still see aliens as a potential threat asking,“If the aliens are benevolent, why haven’t they shut down the continued nuclear testing?”
Perhaps they’re waiting to see if humans will become “evolved” enough to shut down the testing on our own?
What if hostile aliens are alert for for planets attaining the capability for nuclear fission, and then send undercover operatives to destroy the planet?
They obviously aren’t. Because we’ve fissioned for 75+ years. And to any being that can do interstellar travel, 75 years is nothing, and if they wanted/needed to destroy this planet, it would have been long done already.
