Fake casualty numbers

This is garbage news from a Jewish magazine and only shows data for 2 weeks. Where is the rest of the graph showing the data from November 11th thru December, January and February?

Read the Lancet report in December that said there is not evidence of exaggeration in Gaza Ministry of Health data.

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Claiming that Israel killed 471 people by intentionally bombing a hospital when in fact it was Hamas that killed 200 of their own people with a missile sure seems like reason for me not to trust them.

Your mileage may vary.

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The world is sympathetic. Most of the Jewish community is sympathetic. The Palestinians are being heard by all of us.

But it is not that simple.

Hamas is an invitation for a few more wars by the Muslim Brotherhood in other nations. What do you do with that?

Should other already conservative Arab nations have to have civil wars over going into a crazy realm of religion?

As far as the data we are listening to they are dishonest numbers and that is a problem for the Palestinian cause.

Nice guess. How many Hamas fighters did they report were killed? If the number is always relatively low, you know they are lying.

You are still clinging to one incident. I am referring to the 30,000+ data points produced for that last 150+ days. I trust Lancet and other experts around the world. I do not believe the BS propaganda spewed by the Israeli ultra conservative government on this issue and many other issues.

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They are not dishonest numbers for the Gaza Ministry of Health. The dishonest data comes from the Israeli ultra conservative government.

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Give us an example of the dishonest data.

Israel gives dishonest data on

  1. aid arriving in Gaza
  2. the number of Gazans killed
  3. the number of Hamas fighters killed
  4. Hamas steals the aid arriving in Gaza
  5. Gaza hospitals schools, and churches are teeming with Hamas fighters

I do not believe anything the ultra conservative Israeli government claims as facts.

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Yet you believe Hamas. Enough said.

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Why are those numbers wrong? Never mind honest or not. Why were any of those numbers wrong?

Just because Jews gave out those numbers?

I’d put more faith in Hamas numbers than in your opinions on this topic. There are close to 30000 plus dead Gazans. Israel is not denying that.

Jaak,

So Israel stops this war. Hamas regroups.

Do other parts of the Muslim Brotherhood have uprisings?

Does Hamas attack Israel again?

I believe in Lancet, UN, and most world leaders who have agreed with the Gaza Ministry of Health .

Yet you believe Netanyahu and his government.

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In other words, those who toe the Hamas line.

Hidden because someone has sensitive feelings and flagged it.

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Wrong - Lancet does not lie - but Netanyahu does lie!

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This is garbage news from a Jewish magazine and only shows data for 2 weeks. Where is the rest of the graph showing the data from November 11th thru December, January and February?

Read the Lancet report in December that said there is not evidence of exaggeration in Gaza Ministry of Health data.

Seems to me that all this arguing over sources misses the point. Considering the chaos in Gaza, bodies dead inside buildings, bodies buried in rubble, all government and organization in tatters … then it is pretty much impossible for anyone to have true, accurate, up to date data. In this context, a number of people have decided that the Ministry of Health provides the most reasonable guess available, but no one, including the Ministry of Health, thinks it is anything but a guess. Not to mention that there aren’t really any meaningful competing sources.

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What was his particular lie?

@Tamhas,

But that is part of what the problem with Hamas Health Ministry numbers.

The numbers could be higher.

The number of dead militants matters. Hamas is lying.

Like I said, there is no really believable source of information and the most believable doesn’t have all the information we wish we had. Castigating the Ministry of Health for not being totally believable, does not make any other source more believable.

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If this thread has accomplished anything, it’s provided a clear demonstration on why this conflict will go on for decades.

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