The UN has been compiling some interesting war casualty statistics. Since the Ukraine War began over 18 months ago, about 600 children have been killed in Ukraine.
The Israelis seem to be baby killing in Gaza with ruthless efficency. In the 5 weeks since the war started, over 10,000 Palestinians (4,000 children among them) have died in the War.
Do you really believe out of 10,000 people , 4,000 are children? I am skeptical of numbers like that especially when you are saying 600 children have been killed in Ukraine and that war has been going on much longer.
Yep. Gaza has a population distribution where about 1/2 the population is under 18. If you’re just randomly dropping bombs in a densely populated area, the dead will approximate the age distribution of the population.
So if 1/2 the population is under 18 at what age does Hamas allow people to go to war for them? 12? 11? 10? If they are combatants in a war can they really be considered children or do they now get “labeled” adults.
No. I’m pretty sure Gaza isn’t like Africa where you have those “Coked up” child soldiers running around with rifles. The 10-yr-olds in Gaza are throwing stones.
No I said our government doesn’t have a problem with it.
I believe the US perpetual war foreign policy after 9/11 yielded little benefit at a cost of trillions of dollars that could have been spent better say on US infrastructure.
Our foreign policy also causes problems in the EU as millions of refugees flooded there to avoid war.
The “exceptional” nation has caused numerous clusterf*@ks throughout the world. Perhaps quite a bit less worldwide meddling and concentrating on improving the lot of US citizenry might actually be an improvement in the world. I view our nation as more despicable rather than exceptional.
As long as I am on my soapbox. I am a bit amazed at the furor over US support of Israel’s murderous activity upon the Palestinians. American citizens ignored US funding of Saudi Arabia’s murderous activity in Yemen.
These concerns highlight how the unintended effects of the coalition’s operations have exacerbated the terrible conditions of Yemen’s civil war, characterized as the “worst humanitarian disaster” in nearly 50 years.
I take the Gaza casualty numbers with a grain of salt as the numbers come from Hamas sources. And Hamas views Gaza casualties as a success.
However, killing any children (or civilians), even in war, is just plain wrong.
Israel has made two giant unforced errors. One was giving Netanyahu the power to form a radical right-wing government that had more interest in preserving power than providing security (obviously). The second was keeping Netanyahu and his cronies in power to lead a response to the Hamas terrorist attack. Negotiating with terrorists bent on your destruction provides no easy solution, but creating a humanitarian crisis makes it much worse.
Hamas, of course, could easily return all the hostages (which include babies and small children) in exchange for a tentative cease fire, but their goal involves more deaths, not fewer. Which is also why they don’t release their hidden cache of food, medical supplies, fuel, and water. They have no interest in helping Palestinian civilians.
So as long as Palestinians tolerate Hamas and Israelis keep Netanyahu in power, we’re left with crazies fighting each other, with civilians and children caught in the crossfire.
Both radical sides are to blame.
One way out could be a 2-state solution where Palestinians recognize Israel’s right to exist and Israel cedes some of the land they control for a Palestinian state. I know, I’m a dreamer.
I’m beginning to doubt that King Solomon could figure this out.
Israeli officials have been repeatedly asked about the body count, and, uniformly, dismiss anything said by Hamas. The interviewer then notes that, after previous wars, the UN has found the Hamas body counts to be pretty accurate. The Israeli officials, uniformly, then dismiss what the UN says as well.
That is the weakness of the democratic process. Passions of the moment, maybe helped along with some manipulation by TPTB, can push government policy away from moderation. Someone once said something along the lines of “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others”.
“Bibi” is probably shocked, SHOCKED, that the people didn’t rally around him, as USians rallied around their own sitting regime, after 9/11. The demonstrations against his judicial “reform” seem to have gone away, but now he has peace demonstrations in the street, while the US proles lined up in favor of war, surveillance.imprisonment without due process, and torture.
The media is also being far more skeptical of Israeli claims than they were of USian post-9/11 claims. Maybe a healthy dose of “fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me”.
If anyone is an American citizen then by default they are the American Government. Everyone wants to wash their hands of it but we voted them in so…
As far as Israel goes, they were attacked, the attackers took hostages. The attackers also control and are the Government over Gaza. What exactly would you do if a country attacked your country and took hostages back over to their territory? Who does that and why would people condone that?
15-16 years old and NOT mentally disabled. Essentially, able to freely CHOOSE to join.
“This was also the goal behind Prophet Muhammad’s rejection of ibn ʻUmar’s attempt to join the Muslim army at the battle of Uḥud, wherein he was considered by the Prophet to be fit for fighting only after he had reached the age of 15 (according to ibn ʻUmar’s words, or 16 according to calendar calculations).”
Israelis are unlike Americans in this respect. Israelis hold their leaders accountable. Prime Minister Golda Meir lost her office for the outbreak of the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Israelis held the PM immediately responsible for the breakdown and invasion
According to what was posted above, if they are able to validly join a group because they are “old enough (15-16)”, then they are no longer children. Two different scales, one says “child” is sub-18. The other says age 15-16 is the age they become an adult. They use deliberately do NOT use the same definition for Western propaganda and recruitment. How low the age might be can’t be stated–because fanatics (“true believers”) will take “anyone” they can get–mentally ill or not, sick or not, handicapped or not, etc. They literally want “bodies”. Dead or alive is not the recruiter’s problem once the newbies have joined the group. Some prefer death because it supposedly shows their devotion to Islam and “the cause”.
Than the number of children killed can’t be 4000. In fact children might be under 14 or could be as low as 12, who knows when the goal posts keep getting moved.
