Israel is heading down the path to major economic problems

Israel Protests Opposition Threatens to Shut Down Israel Ahead of Vote on Judicial Overhaul

The nation’s biggest labor union warned it would bring the economy to a halt as thousands of protesters took to the streets. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition is pushing for Parliament to pass the proposal on Monday.

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Watch Wendy flag my post again because it mentions Israel.

How is this related to METAR??? If anything, it might be OT … but still almost pure politics so it doesn’t belong here. Just post it on a political board instead!

USA does a lot of business with Israel!
USA gives lots of money to Israel!
USA guarantees the security of Israel!
USA is constantly involved with differences between Israeli Jews, Israeli Arabs and West Bank / Gaza Arabs!
The economic and social troubles in Palestine and Israel are constantly in our daily news - NYT, WAPO. NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and FOX.

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And how does any of this affect the USA macroeconomically???

Nobody is saying it shouldn’t be discussed, just that it should be discussed in an appropriate forum.

You have to love Wendy, she does a really good job of keeping the order. :rofl: :rofl:

Andy
Who has been flagged appropriately multiple times and with gusto.

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It is a major social issue for Israel.

The community works through all conditions in various ways. Notably other communities do not work together for better times through all conditions. It leads to a true blame for lack of being responsible.

The Jews populations did not just magically appear across the Middle East and Persia.

I am not sure the new law is a problem at all. In the US the court never would have had such powers. The objection is a loss of individual rights POSSIBLY.

The court will be able to deny this law. Then what? There is no overriding the court denying this law. The law is not in keeping with how Israel functions.

Much of an argument in these sorts of things is overkill. The minority groups and women should be vocal and are. The court will get to rule on its own power. Bibi does not get to rule on the court. Neither does the Knesset get to rule on the court’s final decisions.

As far as the Israeli economy it is reasonably socialist. It is more than reasonably capitalist. It will be well.

US has a Constitution which defines the roles of 3 equal branches of the Government. Israel has no constitution, and the Israeli Court is the only check on the Executive Branch of the Government.

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The Knesset is a check of course. The public is a check. But you are blaming the public in the first place.

Look like it or hate it the West Bank is 20% under PLA control. Another 20% under mixed control and the rest under Israeli control. The Palestinians are being slowly pushed out.

If it was the other way around it would be ignored.

Very frankly it is the other way around. The other countries in the Middle East have pushed out Jews and others. The poorest ghetto in Egypt is Jewish. No one in the Egyptian government or military owned business sector will do business with the Jewish population.

What is the “Executive Branch” of a parliamentary form of government?

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No government can function without a bureaucracy. Would that qualify as an ‘executive branch’?

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Bob,

That piece is an excuse or lame rational.

The bureaucrats can make the decisions as is…but not against minorities. The issues you are citing on business related which this ruling is not about. This is about civil rights.

The Knesset is part of the Executive branch. They chose Bibi with the slim support. The public has been 50/50 for years. With the new laws the Religious Right and the Nationalist will have their thumb on the scale of human rights with more stealing of Arab lands and killing of Arabs. Not very good for the economy when full scale war erupts.

This only the first step in Bibi’s overthrow of the Courts checks and balances. More changes in laws to come as already promised by Bibi.

The article is irrelevant in this context except to show that Israel has a significant bureaucracy. Would you consider it part of the government that executes or carries out the laws passed by the Knesset?

DB2

Yes, the US has a constitution, while Israel does not. Doesn’t really make a difference. The US Constitution does not provide for judicial oversight of acts of Congress. which is the issue in Israel.

Remember your high school teacher talking about “Marbury v Madison”? That was a case before the Supreme Court where the court assigned to itself the authority to overturn laws. We presently have a Court that likes to require an issue to be specifically addressed by Congress, rather than be decided by the court, or a government bureaucracy, like the EPA. The current court would probably smile on a law saying the court does not have review authority, unless the Constitution is amended, or Congress passes a law.

Steve

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The Supreme Court plays a very important role in our constitutional system of government. First, as the highest court in the land, it is the court of last resort for those looking for justice. Second, due to its power of judicial review, it plays an essential role in ensuring that each branch of government recognizes the limits of its own power. Third, it protects civil rights and liberties by striking down laws that violate the Constitution. Finally, it sets appropriate limits on democratic government by ensuring that popular majorities cannot pass laws that harm and/or take undue advantage of unpopular minorities. In essence, it serves to ensure that the changing views of a majority do not undermine the fundamental values common to all Americans, i.e., freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and due process of law.

About the Supreme Court | United States Courts.

This what is being eroded in Israel with their new laws:
Finally, it sets appropriate limits on democratic government by ensuring that popular majorities cannot pass laws that harm and/or take undue advantage of unpopular minorities. In essence, it serves to ensure that the changing views of a majority do not undermine the fundamental values common to all Americans, i.e., freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and due process of law.

This is how the Supremes are (largely) supposed to work. The great majority of the public thinks these sentences might be written today with a “should.”

Pete

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I agree with everything you say about the importance of the court’s review of laws. However, that power of review was assigned to the court by itself, not by the Constitution or act of Congress.

Recall the whine, from certain factions, for a few decades now? “unelected judges legislating from the bench”. Now, that faction seems to have a majority in the court that agrees with it.

Unlike Israel, eliminating the SCOTUS’ power of review would only require a test case. TPTB would only need to find someone with “standing”, ie, been hurt by the court’s overturn of a law. What the law was, and it’s impact on plaintiff would really be irrelevant, because the objective is to use any means to take away the court’s power of review.

Steve

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:100: :100: :100:

Now you want 20?

That is why the US weighting in has a bit more clout here.

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