Middle East Arabs Galvanized into Action

The threat to turn Gaza into a “Riviera of the Middle East. seems to lit a fire under the Middle East Arab community.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/egypts-sisi-travel-riyadh-gaza-arab-plan-discussion-sources-say-2025-02-18/
The Arab proposal, mostly based on an Egyptian plan, involves forming a national Palestinian committee to govern Gaza without Hamas involvement and international participation in reconstruction without displacing Palestinians abroad.

A $20 billion contribution from Arab and Gulf states towards the fund, cited by two sources as being a likely figure, may be a good incentive for Trump to accept the plan, Emirati academic Abdulkhaleq Abdullah said.

The plan sees reconstruction taking place over a three-year timeframe, sources said.

The sticking point.

A proposed Egyptian plan would most likely include the formation of a committee of Palestinian technocrats and community leaders, all unaffiliated with Hamas, who could run Gaza after the war.

But Israeli leaders have said they would oppose any postwar plans that would pave the way to Palestinian sovereignty. Arab leaders insist they would support only a proposal that at least nominally forged a path toward Palestinian statehood.

The Arab plan will focus on ideas that keep Palestinians inside Gaza to counter Mr. Trump’s calls for Egypt and Jordan to take them in, an idea Arab countries have all rejected. Many in the Arab world would consider any forced displacement of Palestinians from Gaza an ethnic cleansing and a war crime as well as a death knell for any future Palestinian state.

Can an agreement be reached?

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iirc “Bibi” declared the “two state solution” dead, several years ago.

Steve

Give them Florida. Win-Win.

Yes but without Hamas and the PA.

Time for the Palestinians to have a lot better.

and Netanyahu…

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He is not a problem.

He is a democratically elected leader. If it were true that peace would come to Gaza, then he’d shift or be gone.

Arab leaders on Tuesday endorsed the post-war plan, which was put forward by Egypt, to rebuild the Paelstinian enclave.

That plan was rejected out of hand, by both Tig and “Bibi”. TPTB want that land for their big beachfront resort, so they can make a lot of money.

Steve

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You don’t understand the strength of the Orthodox vote in Israel. They are a solid block of “all or nothing”, and as Goldwater said about religious blocks, they act as though their thoughts are informed by God, and will not compromise . A decent share of Bibi’s support is these radicals.

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“They say the Arab League’s proposal for post-war reconstruction fails to address realities in Gaza.”

See the problem yet? Kind of like the South Park episode about “underpants gnomes.” Their business plan consisted of three phases:

  1. Collect underpants
  2. ?
  3. Profit!

The Egyptian plan has a huge Phase 2 problem. Just exactly how do Egypt and its partners plan to “exclude Hamas from governance”? Especially under the auspices of the Palestinian Authority, which can’t even keep Hamas from forming cells in the West Bank and contending for power?

DB2

You do not know the Jewish culture. It is more agnostic than you perceive.

Roughly one in five Israeli Jews, or about 20%, do not believe in a deity, while about 15% claim to observe no religious practices.

Here’s a more detailed breakdown:

  • Secular Identity:

Many Israeli Jews identify as secular, with some surveys showing roughly half describing themselves as such.

  • Jewish Identity:

Even among those who identify as secular, most still consider themselves Jewish, often emphasizing their Israeli national identity alongside their Jewish heritage.

  • Religious Observance:

While a significant portion of Israeli Jews are secular, there are also various levels of religious observance, ranging from traditional to ultra-Orthodox.

  • Diversity within Judaism:

Israeli Jewry is diverse, encompassing different religious subgroups, including Haredi (ultra-Orthodox), Dati (religious), Masorti (traditional), and Hiloni (secular).

**Survey Results:

A 2016 Pew Research Center survey found that roughly 40% of Israeli Jews identify as Hiloni (secular), 23% as Masorti (traditional), 10% as Dati (religious) and 8% as Haredi (ultra-Orthodox).

**Importance of Religion:

While a smaller percentage of Israeli Jews consider religion very important in their lives compared to Israeli Arabs, there are still significant differences in religious commitment and practice among Jewish subgroups.