Migration from the South, legal and Ill

Zeihan, out of the blue, has done an excellent short summary of migration from South and Central America across Mexico into USA. He restates with pizazz some of what I have been shrieking here, but adds a lot more about the current main problem, which is the tsunami of Venzuelans. Well worth a listen and not very long.

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Skill level doesn’t matter. As one “thought leader” complained, they aren’t from “Norway”.

Steve

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It’s an interesting question though. Why do so many people support the USA taking the vast bulk of its current immigration from central and south America and so few from Asia, Africa, and Europe? Is it solely because the land masses happen to be connected?

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That was hugely enlightening.

I’m sure that is a big part of it. Refugees from Africa and the Middle East head for Europe.

Why don’t we see vastly more people coming here from western Europe or Japan/Korea? Lack of failed states in those areas. This map shows were the happy and unhappy folks are. I would expect a correlation between being deeply unhappy where you are, and a willingness to risk life and limb to go somewhere else.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world

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It is hard to walk on water.

The smart Venezuelans left years ago. After Hugo Chavez fired his political opponents at PDVSA, the national oil company, many of whom had been trained by working at the nationalized oil companies, these professionals dispersed and helped develop the oil industry world wide.

Venezuela was a century ahead on Norway in oil.

The Captain

At a marina in the St. Thomas, USVI, I met a Venezuelan who was the head of their maintenance department. He had learned to work with fiberglass in Venezuela. He too was not from Norway.

EDIT: Not the head of the marina’s maintenance department but of a boat rental business that operated at the marina.

He bought the wreck of a boat destroyed by a hurricane, fixed it up, and was the proud owner of a $50K yacht! Not bad for a migrant.

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At least one or two Jews have done it.

The take-away from the “thought leader’s” complaint was that most of the people who come to the US aren’t white. As he said (cleaning up for the censor) they come from “poo-hole countries”, rather than white, Christian, western Europe.

Steve

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Not really. You just have to wait for it to freeze. I’m sure the Norwegians understand that.
Also, all those Michiganders in this discussion…

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White Christians from western Europe created the Inquisition and the Holocaust. What’s so good about that?

The Captain .

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Word. Chinese managed to find a way across the ocean in the 19th century; they went from a mere 2,500 at mid century to 60,000 just 20 years later, and doubled that in another 10 years. Then came the backlash and the Chinese exclusion acts and rampant discrimination and the flood slowed to a trickle. But why did they come? Same reason as today: failed state, needed work, came for a better life. I suspect if Mexico had a rip roaring economy throughout instead of just along the USian border many of those from Central America and below would be happy to stop there. Same language and all, similar cultures. But starvation and family wil;l overcome a lot.

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I’m pretty sure the advocates of those policies said they were “protecting our traditional family values”. The people persecuted were “others”, like Jews, and Communists, and gays, and Lutherans, who did not fit the “values” as dictated by the majority.

Steve

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Galileo Galilei was a Jewish, Communists, gay, Lutheran?

The Captain

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Still, I’d rather live in Denmark than Haiti. Let me know when they relocate the UN headquarters to Port-au-Prince.

DB2

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That’s a different story. I chose Portugal over the rest of the world. :wink:

The Captain

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Just pointing out there are “poo-hole countries”.

DB2

I employee a lot of Venezuelan immigrants. Very skilled, great people. Glad to have them.

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Just as bad. Galileo advanced evidence that the Earth revolved around the Sun. Just as they did with the Lutherans and Commies, the Job Creators noted this was contrary to approved Job Creator doctrine and dragged him in front of the Inquisition.

To their credit, 360 years later the Job Creators concluded that while Galileo clearly wasn’t correct, he might not have been totally off-base either.

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That seems to be an inelegant but accurate way to describe Haiti these days.

DB2
Still waiting for the UN to relocate its headquarters to Port-au-Prince

I found the following in a few minutes. I’m sure much more information can be found via a deep dive via Google/duckduckgo search engines.

Over the next four decades, the policies put into effect in 1965 would greatly change the demographic makeup of the American population, as immigrants entering the United States under the new legislation came increasingly from countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America, as opposed to Europe.

In 1986, Congress enacted another major law – the Immigration Reform and Control Act – that granted legalization to millions of unauthorized immigrants, mainly from Latin America, who met certain conditions. The law also imposed sanctions on employers who hired unauthorized immigrants. Subsequent laws in 1996, 2002 and 2006 were responses to concerns about terrorism and unauthorized immigration. These measures emphasized border control, prioritized enforcement of laws on hiring immigrants and tightened admissions eligibility.

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