All new Volvo Car models launched from 2019 will be fully electric or hybrids, becoming the first major automaker to set a date for the complete phase-out of traditional vehicles. “This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion engine-powered car,” Volvo Cars CEO Hakan Samuelsson declared. “This means that in the future there will be no Volvo cars without an electric motor.”
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Volvo Cars is owned by Geely Holding Group, a Chinese multinational automotive manufacturing company. Apart from Tesla, China is way ahead of the rest of the world in electric cars and motorcycles.
Volvo Cars, also based in Gothenburg, is owned by Geely Holding Group, a Chinese multinational automotive manufacturing company, and has been a totally separate company since it was sold to the Ford Motor Company in 1999.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo
Denny Schlesinger
Volvo Cars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Cars
BTW, my sailboat had a Volvo marine Diesel that would never quit.
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All new Volvo Car models launched from 2019 will be fully electric or hybrids, becoming the first major automaker to set a date for the complete phase-out of traditional vehicles. “This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion engine-powered car,” Volvo Cars CEO Hakan Samuelsson declared. “This means that in the future there will be no Volvo cars without an electric motor.”
Hummmmm. Rio Tinto, and AWAY!
Cheers
Qazulight(Just kidding. Macro analysis is the best way I know of to make a small fortune, out of a large one.)
It really does feel as though hybrids are the big auto old guard trying to stave off the rise of electric - much the same as APS was Kodak/Fuji and the traditional photographic film industry’s attempt to stave off digital.
Ant
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Same with mine, decades ago. It was often sloshed about with sea water. There were endless problems with the stern gland and the folding prop. but the engine never failed. It was a Volvo Penta. But I think we may be straying from etc.
It really does feel as though hybrids are the big auto old guard trying to stave off the rise of electric
I am sure many if not all the posters on this board had taken long road trips, in which you have covered more than 500 miles a day. Today, I don’t see electric cars can cover that range and even if you are using superchargers, the time it takes to charge fully can be easily a couple of hours and if you have to charge on a regular power outlet, then we are looking more than 8 hours.
So there is a real need for hybrids.
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The SA Tesla board has people regularly reporting on multi-thousand mile trips. It is getting increasingly easy to plan trips that hit superchargers regularly for something less than a full charge so that it is easily combined with a lunch break or whatever. New superchargers are being deployed rapidly and destination chargers even faster (charge over night where you are staying).
Perhaps if you are the type that drives as far as possible every day, eats in the car, only stops for gas and bathroom … then you might still find this constraining, but for anyone less manic the situation is already quite good in many places and gaps are being filled at a good pace.
Of course, this means having to drive a Tesla …
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When gas stations start to shutter because of a big drop in customer visits will the disruption snowball?
When charging times decrease and electric mileage increases will it cause a snowball effect?
Who gains, Dollar stores?
Will the incumbents start to fail?
Charging times at a Super Charger never take 2 hours (where did that come from?). My car is plugged in at my home and set to charge at midnight and by morning it will be fully charged. How convenient is that?
Visit the Tesla forum and get informed.
Bruce
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Well count me as a poster who just took a 2000+ mile trip in a Tesla. And it was a very nice trip, Tesla S are super road cars
The longest time I ever spent at a SC was an hour and 5 minutes. I am chicken about having a big range reserve and arranged that long stop at a nice tourist attraction. Believe it or not, Sulphur Springs Texas, it has one of the neatest looking courthouses I have ever seen and who could resist a visit to the Redneck Bar. A complete surprise to me ,well worth the visit and the SC is nicely located for tourism purposes.
You could not take “easily a couple of hours to change at a SC” even if you arrived on zero, even if you tried.
BTW on the route there will be at least 3 more superchargers within 6 months.
The only “need” for hybrids is for car companies to push up compliance with CAFE
I know of non other industry (other than locomotives) where hybrids have prevailed, the companies that made them mostly went broke.
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The longest time I ever spent at a SC was an hour and 5 minutes
Sorry, but that is still almost an hour longer than I want to spend refueling my vehicle.
When I am driving from Denver to Kansas City, I want to make just one or two stops. And I hope to keep it to just a 10 minute stop. But, I am usually trying to get somewhere and not looking to hang out for an hour. I know that some people like long stops, though.
The only “need” for hybrids is for car companies to push up compliance with CAFE
Very true.
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Published on Jul 6, 2017
Jordan and Bradly D’Souza set out in a Tesla Model S 85D on July 1st from LA to NY and set a new record by arriving in 51 Hours and 47 Minutes, besting the previous record held by Alex Roy and friends of 55 hours by a whopping 3 hours and 13 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wleUNEYXxb0
Robert
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When I am driving from Denver to Kansas City, I want to make just one or two stops. And I hope to keep it to just a 10 minute stop.
Here’s a page from a blog about 2 years ago covering that route: http://sahatyalkabov.com/cross-country-road-trip-in-tesla-mo…
Two charging stops. Some range anxiety, but he didn’t start out with a full charge, probably because he wasn’t at home/work in Denver). At 604+ miles, two partial charging stops (40 min each?) should work (figure 260 miles full tank range conservatively, and you start out with a full tank).
In my younger days, I could drive from 400 miles from San Jose to Orange County with just one short 10-15 min gas/bathroom break - if I brought food along in a cooler. Now, my legs need periodic stretching, and unfortunately, the needed bathroom breaks are more frequent. (Don’t ask me more about that, let’s just say Mick Jagger got it right when he sang: “What a drag it is getting old”).
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tHe fact is that it only takes me 15 seconds or so to plug in at home. Which I don’t need to do every day. A gas break takes 4 or 5 minutes if you are quick ,possibly longer if bathroom is involved. If you have young kids add lots of minutes. Or even some extra minutes for most wives.
Unless a Teslas owner supercharges a lot , he spends less time “fueling” over a year than you do.
If you are young, have a large bladder, and don’ t mind the risk of potentially fatal deep vein thrombosis ,an ICE car is faster on long trips. Long expressway travel is the one time an ICE may be better than a Tesla. But that primary use fits only a few people ,leaving plenty of room for BEV sales. Because most BEV owners believe they just drive better. Even on the X way.
Whatever, 20 years from now you will probably be driving an electric because new fossil fuel car sales will be outlawed or heavily taxed. At least in places like US ,EU ,Japan etc.
Whatever, 20 years from now you will probably be driving an electric because new fossil fuel car sales will be outlawed or heavily taxed. At least in places like US ,EU ,Japan etc
I believe you are quite wrong about the reasons.
The battery automobile will so much simpler and cheaper to manufacture, maintain and power that owning an internal combustion engine will be as quaint as owning a horse.
Cheers
Qazulight
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tHe fact is that it only takes me 15 seconds or so to plug in at home
That seems like a long time. As I get out of the car I grab the cable from its housing on the wall and put in the socket without breaking stride. Less than 1 second to plug in.
Ian
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you don’t have to get out of the car first?
Whatever it is a lot faster than using a gas pump.
A corollary to the EV theme is battery technology, specifically Lithium-ion batteries. Today MF has a new article about Lithium producers, and recommends Albemarle (ALB) in particular. ALB is a US corporation, already profitable and pays a dividend. It has, however, already been “discovered,” so shares are no longer “cheap.” I should also add that I own a few shares myself.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/07/08/electric-cars-the-…
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