OT?: Israel's October 7th failure

There are so many BS Talking Heads that I avoid the subject but this podcast is credible and reminiscent of the 9/11 intelligence failure.

How Israel Fatally Underestimated Hamas | Yaakov Katz

also

In the Spotlight: Yaakov Katz (“While Israel Slept”)

The Captain

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I’m too lazy to view the videos.
I wonder if they go into Netanyahu funding Hamas through Qatar to raising its influence to diminish the influence of the PLO.[1]
Picking winners can blow back in one’s face.
This happen to the US when we funded & armed Islamic fundamentalists hoping to bring down Syria’s leader. Some of that aid trickled to ISIS. Also by supporting fundamentalists likely new adherents joined ISIS.
Also US support of mujahideen in Afghanistan including bin Laden had fatal consequences.

[1]For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our faces | The Times of Israel
Leaked doc. reveals Israel encouraged Qatar to fund Gaza despite sums reaching Hamas

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No.

Has nothing to do with picking winners., it’s about intelligence failure.

To demonise Netanyahu start your own thread.

The Captain

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Interesting.

Most of what you have posted was unverified. Did you stop to realize that?

NPR today had an Arab doctor who volunteered to work in a Gaza hospital recently.

His claims were pure lies. Straight. NPR did not say we have another witness or a single photograph. Then a quick thing from the Israeli side that said such thing would be against the law and we fed the detainees three times a day, we do not torture them, and we do not place them on their knees at all.

The claims mirrored what Hamas had been doing to Jewish prisoners taken.

The doctor out of Baltimore? claimed along with torture were bullet wounds by the Israeli prison guards.

The word infidel means you are dishonest. Most Muslims would never use that word. But the extremely demented use it endlessly. Assume when you are seen to be dishonest it is an excuse to lie to people by the person who sees you are dishonest. That goes for a lot of press releases in the US quoting Hamas reporters.

And/or lack of imagination. I’ve often wondered if intelligence agencies ever hire mystery/thriller writers to think up not so crazy scenarios. Then search the intelligence chatter to see if there was something missed. 25 years ago who would’ve thought of a co-ordinated hijacking attack?

Personally, I’m just waiting for the activation of various foreign “seal teams” that walked across an open Southern border.

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There is no open Southern (or Northern) border.

JimA

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