Semi-OT: They're rioting in Africa

…Spain actually, as Ceuta across from Gibralter is part of Spain. Tens of thousands of Moroccans stormed the border fences. The Spanish prime minister blames trafficking gangs, but has apparently refused to declare a state of emergency.

About 60,000 migrants have crossed from Morocco into Spain’s tiny Ceuta territory in the past 24 hours, Ceuta’s president said Friday, a figure that is equivalent to 70% of the population of the city in North Africa. But roughly half of them have already made their way back voluntarily, the Spanish government said, after the sudden arrival of so many migrants triggered chaos and a humanitarian crisis.

Because of the open travel laws in Europe, other EU countries have reacted negatively. Georgia Meloni in Italy is considering cutting off Spain’s access to Italy by Schengen Zone rules. Also Finland…

DB2

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Plus ca change, plus c’est le meme chose.

Wendy

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Right-wing Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and center-left Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen on Monday reiterated their push to combat illegal migration after thousands of unauthorized migrants surged into Spanish exclave Ceuta in late July.

“We are aware that many might be wondering about our cooperation. We come from very different political backgrounds, and we certainly do not agree on everything,” Meloni posted in a “joint message” on Facebook, sharing an archival photo of herself and Frederiksen.

“We do not accept uncontrolled immigration to Europe, and we have promoted a strict immigration policy, both in our Nations and in Europe,” the statement continued.

DB2

I live in the UK and immigration is out of control across most of Europe. Our political leaders all promise to deal with it, but never do. I almost feel that there is some hidden agenda to replace us white indigenous Brits.

One in six people living in England and Wales in 2021 were born outside the UK, according to the latest census figures.

The fiscal impact of these immigrants are complex:

The social impact of mass immigration is even more complicated as many UK cities have areas that are basically foreign enclaves. Some scholars believe that this will lead to a civil war of some kind:

The UK does not seem to be benefitting from mass immigration or deficit spending as our GDP hardly move and GDP per capita is falling:

How Britain Became as Poor as Mississippi

A case study in self-sabotage

I tell all the younger members of my family to leave!

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So you think there are too many immigrants where you’re at so you tell the younguns to emigrate somewhere else? That’s not inconsistent at all.

Edit: Please don’t tell them to come to the USA. We don’t want your kind over here.

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Not a chance. The USA and Europe are in the same sinking economic boat.

There is a considerable difference between people leaving the UK and some of those coming here. The UK is extremely good at training professionals whose skills are in demand all over the world. I have a relative who is considering job offers from Singapore and Australia:

Our best and brightest seem to be engaged in a mass exodus from Britain, setting up their lives and careers overseas. Helen Coffey investigates why our country has lost its appeal – and whether there’s anything that could entice people back

Many of the people coming here are relatively low skilled people, some cannot even speak the language, They are a considerable burden on the UK’s taxpayers:

A RECORD 230 illegal immigrants cram on to a single dinghy heading for Britain — landing taxpayers with an estimated £25million bill.

So, each illegal migrant is going to cost the taxpayer almost £100k. A very strange way to run an economy IMHO.

This ignores the social and cultural problems that are being created.

The subject is becoming a big political issue here in the UK:

At bottom, the most infuriating aspect of Britain’s experiment with mass migration has been the way in which it was foisted upon the electorate with a contemptuous disregard for the very concept of a democratic mandate.

Which party included in its manifesto a pledge to increase migration incrementally until it reached an all-time high of a million newcomers a year? Not New Labour. Not the Conservatives under any of their leaders. Not the Labour party of Keir Starmer and Andy Burnham. Nobody asked us about it. Yet that is what we got.

https://archive.is/zPJh3#selection-3405.0-3413.237

During the Windrush immigration there was an argument that we need workers and I think that this argument was still being made a few years ago.

There have been many studies on the impact of immigration on the labour market, many of which are a bit difficult to make anything of. This one suggests that immigrants are paid less for similar work than native Brits which seems a bit unfair:

The EU has undertaken research into mass immigration and the effects on the labour market and suggests that this has helped the labour market:

Intra-EU relocation flows have increasingly served as a channel of economic adjustment between EU countries, but immigration from outside the EU is playing an increasingly important role in meeting labour demand

There are various reports suggesting that white Brits will be a minority in quite a short time (2063?) so it will be interesting to see how this pans out. The future of the Anglo-Saxons in Britain might be under threat. After all, it was mass uncontrolled immigration that almost wiped out the native American population.

Edit: I’ve found this that I recall reading many years ago. It’s quite old but explains the underlying economics of mass migration quite well.

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