https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/14/these-10-states-are-americas…
**10. Nevada**
**9. Tennessee**
**8. Indiana**
**7. New Mexico**
**6. Louisiana**
**5. Missouri**
**4. South Carolina**
**3. Oklahoma**
**2. Texas**
**1. Arizona**
The 10 Best States are here.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/14/these-10-states-are-americas…
10. Nevada
9. Tennessee
8. Indiana
7. New Mexico
6. Louisiana
5. Missouri
4. South Carolina
3. Oklahoma
2. Texas
1. Arizona
Florida Man hereby lodges a complaint…
Albaby
I was not surprised to see my state at #8.
*Florida Man hereby lodges a complaint…*Albaby
Pretty sure the primary reason Florida is #1 worst place to live is everyone there complains so much
about every little thing 
From Duluth MN, absolute worst place to live, no one should come here, ever …
From Duluth MN, absolute worst place to live, no one should come here, ever …
Yeah, right. Been there done that.
Duluth is a great town. Can be tough between New Years and Easter.
Cheers
Qazulight
I looked at the methodology of the article. On the surface the logic seems sound, but when I pull up articles about what people are really doing, the results do not correlate.
I have to wonder if the article created logic to support a preconceived notion.
Personally, northern Minnesota South Dakota and parts of Oregon would be considered by me. Mostly I want to check out southern Chili.
Cheers
Qazulight
I have to wonder if the article created logic to support a preconceived notion.
That and the CNN writer’s already established view of things. For example, Nevada’s population has increased by over 10% since 2015, while the country as a whole grew some 2-3%. New Jersey is on the ‘best’ list and has actually lost population since 2015.
There are clearly people who disagree with the writer and have voted with their feet.
DB2
That’s a joke.
Living up north in MN, Vermont, is horrible in the winter time, especially for seniors. Snow guaranteed. Ice, 7 months of winter followed by month of black flies and mud. Dark - down to below zero.
MN is horrible. weeks at 10 below zero in Minneapolis. Snow, ice, blizzards.
I guess if you like snowmobiling, downhill and cross country skiing, you can have it.
New Jersey? Gimme a break. Horrible high taxes - both real estate and state income tax, piled upon sales tax. Horrible commutes to the suburbs. Traffic everywhere. I grew up there. It wasn’t fun in 1950 and 1960 and went off to college and never looked back. Parents moved out as soon as Dad retired.
I like TX. 4 months of ‘summer’. six weeks of ‘winter’. Good schools, colleges, medical facilities, no state income taxes, real estate taxes ‘frozen’ for seniors…life is good.
t
MN is horrible. weeks at 10 below zero in Minneapolis. Snow, ice, blizzards.
That might have been true 35-75 years ago, but is definitely not true any more.
However, your report is GREAT for keeping out those who can’t live without a welfare state.
“That might have been true 35-75 years ago, but is definitely not true any more.”
I was there in 1990 and I froze my butt off in Minneapolis for a week at well below zero - hitting 10 below. 20 below in the suburbs. It’s still COLD COLD COLD there. Long winters.
In 1966, I went skiing with the family in Stowe VT. Hit officially 33 below zero there. Was 10 below at 1pm and the lower house on the ski lift. 20 mph wind. Warm up, ride the chair lift up with giant blankets supplied, warm up at top, ski down, immediately head to warming house to warm up. No thanks.
Went to college in central NY. Got to 25 below zero there. A week below zero not unusual. Snow. Ice. weather got better in May…but it snowed starting early October.
SPent 3 years in Chicago suburbs. down to 25 below zero. winds. Chill. 18-24 inch snows. No thanks.
For the record - winter of 2021…
"The cold air mass advanced into the state on February 5th, followed by Arctic reinforcements every few days that only served to prolong and sharpen the cold. Most locations finally returned to above-normal temperatures on February 20th or 21st. Daily temperature departures of 20 to 30 degrees F below normal were common across the state for the majority of the cold snap.
Through February 4th, the lowest temperature recorded in Minnesota for the winter had been -37 F, and International Falls had recorded a seasonal low-to-date of -29 F. By the end of the outbreak, however, International Falls had recorded a low of -42 F, and 23 separate stations in Minnesota had recorded at least one low temperature of -40 or lower. The lowest temperature recorded by an official National Weather Service Cooperative observer was -50 F at Snowbank Lake, 25 miles east of Ely, on February 13th and 14th."
https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/climate/journal/february-2021-co….
there you go. If you think that 3 weeks at 20 and 30 below is fun…welcome to MN…
t
The cnbc writer who dreamed this up should have his keyboard locked for at least 6 months.
His choice of criteria are dubious at best.
For many low income taxes is a plus. But property taxes, vehicle taxes, estate taxes, and services provided by state and local government also matter.
And then there is weather. Boating, skiing, hunting, fishing, not to mention how friendly the people are.
Clickbait? No?
As for heavy winters…they are invaluable to longevity. There is a hormonal bath in the dark of winter. Studies are pointing to longer lives because of it.
Almost every younger person has angst in their lives and wishes they were elsewhere. As we settle, not that I have, we gain a bigger dose of gratitude. We like just being anywhere often. Until we face the nursing home, and then it is gratitude out the door. On our deathbeds we have this sudden shock of gratitude…I do not know what happens next…stay tuned.
I live in the Twin Cities, MN. Winter is the season for sledding, snowboarding, snowshoeing, skiing, snowmobiling, and ice fishing. You cannot do any of these things in Florida or in the cities of southern California.
Winter is the season for Netflix, Hulu, Paramount Plus, and HBO Max.
Winter is the most wonderful time of the year for trying out new recipes and trying out healthy superfoods that you’re not sure about. Cold weather gives me a large appetite. Bitterly cold weather gives me a gargantuan appetite. Thus, Old Man Winter makes me less fussy about how things taste. It was several winters ago that I learned that Brussel sprouts and radishes aren’t so bad, and they’re now among the vegetables I buy at the grocery store.
Winter is also the season for eating a wider variety of healthy superfoods, especially vegetables. Summer means a smaller appetite. Reduced overall food consumption means reduced vegetable consumption. This limits the amount of vegetables I can have at home at a given time. (So I don’t buy the kale at Aldi in summer, and I’m much less likely to buy asparagus.)
In contrast, I eat more food in winter, and that means I can eat more vegetables to match. This makes it possible to buy a wider variety of vegetables, yet still finish them up before they rot. Also, the heat and humidity generated by cooking are my friends instead of my enemies in winter. This opens up more ways to cook things and encourages more diversity in my diet.
Florida Man hereby lodges a complaint…
You don’t like where you live? Or… did I misunderstand??
Most every response here has been supportive of the home in which they reside.
I spent many years in springtime in the Florida Keys: awesome weather, awesome people, good diving (not the best). The same can be said of many parts of South Florida.
So in the same vein, I would support the best place to live in America is the central coast of California somewhere between Carmel and Santa Cruz, taxes be damned.
You cannot do any of these things in Florida or in the cities of southern California.
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Yup!
And we don’t own snow shovels nor the “outerwear” to accomplish moving that annoying white precip!
p.s. I've been that lame Mall of the America, & it ain't anywhere near the entertainment destination that Disney World/Land are!!!
sunray
a man in FLA
I live in the Twin Cities, MN. Winter is the season for sledding, snowboarding, snowshoeing, skiing, snowmobiling, and ice fishing. You cannot do any of these things in Florida or in the cities of southern California.
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I love the Twin Cities. My son and DIL lived there for many years.
Regarding Southern California - They have 5 Ski resorts in the 8000 foot mountains near Los Angeles and San Bernardino.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/southern+ca+ski+resorts/@…
My brother and I used to go surfing without wet suits in January at Malibu or County Line one day and the next day we would go snow skiing at Bear Mountain or Mt. Waterman.
Jaak
lol, Duluth is awesome ! Any place on the Lake Superior shoreline is good.
lol, Duluth is awesome ! Any place on the Lake Superior shoreline is good.
Superior shore? Well, maybe in August, when the air temp is above freezing. Seems like anywhere on the lakeshore, including Traverse, is a good place to have an Alberta Clipper break your ears off.
The southern tier of Michigan counties is great. Tons of things going on in the summer. Winter, not so much, but tolerable, unless you are in the lake effect belt.
Steve…scraped frost off the car in Rhinelander, Wisconsin, one August morning,
The attached video on the article is Worst States FOR BUSINESS. Not looking for work or to start a business, so really don’t care.
We have unfortunately come to feel that central VA, which is wonderful in so many ways, simply isn’t going to cut it for us because of weather. We are outdoor people but it’s too cold in the winter, (need it to be over 45F for pickleball or the balls crack endlessly,) and too bloody hot and HUMID from May through September. Am not a huge fan of heat, but humidity with heat is excruciating. I have a hard time breathing in this weather.
So we have decided to start looking for a new home base, at a minimum where we only have to be gone for one season. Current requirement is that we can drive there, has highs of over 45F in the winter and highs of under 85F with no more than 70ish% humidity as a norm. Excellent medical care and a good international airport would be appreciated. Recreational water for kayaking/fishing nearby would be fabulous.
We are going to check out Charlotte, NC soon, mostly because one of our kids lives there. Obviously summer would be the season we would leave there, but winters look decent and boy are there recreational water opportunities, great trails, and serious pickleball. Portland, ME is the flip side of that coin, or Pittsburgh, PA.
Open to suggestions. Looks as though MN needs to be checked out.
IP
We are going to check out Charlotte, NC soon, mostly because one of our kids lives there. Obviously summer would be the season we would leave there, but winters look decent and boy are there recreational water opportunities, great trails, and serious pickleball. Portland, ME is the flip side of that coin, or Pittsburgh, PA.
Summer lasts from May to end of September, sometimes into October.
PSU