`WSJ: DEM Senator meets with wrongfully deported man in CECOT prison

That wouldn’t happen without the OK from the El Salvadoran dictator Bukele.

He must be seeing Trump as a short timer in office, and he’s playing a long game.

free link:

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/senator-meets-with-man-mistakenly-deported-by-trump-administration-4dd69a6e?st=5ecoty&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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“The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order,” wrote Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson, an appointee of former President Ronald Reagan.

Not much to add here.

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Is “wrongfully deported” accurate?

How do you prove a person is a member of a violent gang? Unless convicted of a crime there is little evidence. Are tatoos enough?

Liberals believe those who deny gang membership should remain in the US. That may sound good to some but bad for our crime stats.

Imagine welcoming gangs to the US!!

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Is it enough proof for you if the administration itself admits that he was deported by error?

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Administration is in conflict on this. Now says was not in error. Has witness. But some question reliability of witness (as lawyers usually will).

What do you believe? Clearly gang members will now deny membership.

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Alright then. So you advocate letting the administration pick up people it doesn’t like from the street and deport them to prisons abroad, likely for life, without due process.

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I like some form of legal review. Yes, there should be some evidence. Tatoo not enough. But if identified in video of a crime, that would be enough for me.

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He wasn’t deported by error. He was deported to the wrong country by error.

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I don’t believe that’s correct.

In his prior proceedings, Abrego Garcia was affirmatively granted a “withholding of removal” status. This is a status that is less expansive than asylum, but it does permit the applicant to seek work authorization.

I haven’t been able to find a definitive answer, but it appears that Abrego Garcia would not have been lawfully deported anywhere unless and until the government sought and obtained a removal order from an immigration judge, which would have entailed a hearing at which Abrego Garcia would have had certain due process rights.

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The administration says once you are on a terrorist list (MS-13 is) then that makes the withholding of removal null and void.

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What is Due process?

That term gets thrown around a lot, but Alan Dershowitz points out that it depends on the context. We always think of it as getting a trail, with lawyers, jurors, testimony and a judge. And in many cases that is what is required. But being here illegally, does not provide you with the same due process. The due process for illegal aliens is much leaner and the deportations (at least in the vast majority so far), have met that standard according to him.

Dershowitz is a constitutional expert with decades of experience and his modest little podcast can be very interesting if you have an open mind and enjoy using critical thinking.

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Americans are tired of this Woke nonsense. No need for Republicans to campaign in mid-term. Just run this ad over and over again of what Democrats focus on.

They spend their tax dollars fighting for criminals, gang members, illegal aliens and wife beaters.

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That was expanded to “citizens” as of a day or two ago.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/16/nx-s1-5366178/trump-deport-jail-u-s-citizens-homegrowns-el-salvador

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That is their claim, yes. Though it’s almost certainly wrong. Or rather, it’s almost certainly wrong that the placing you on a terrorist list can support a removal without any opportunity to challenge whether you actually are a member of that terrorist group, much less to contest their legal argument. That formulation of their claim was pretty much rejected by the SCOTUS unanimously.

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They’re not fighting for criminals or gang members. They’re fighting for people who are accused of being criminals or gang members and who aren’t, so that the government can’t do terrible things to innocent people based solely on an accusation without having to prove it.

Are you in favor of the government being able to do terrible things to innocent people without having to have their claims reviewed?

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Democrats have lost sight of what hard working Americans are looking for their government to do for them. It does not include pulling stunts like this.

Here is Batya’s view (a Democrats turned Trump supporter). Keep in mind Trump himself was a Democrat (so was Elon, Joe Rogan and Kennedy)

But she’s wrong. He wasn’t convicted of wife beating. He wasn’t convicted of being in a terrorist gang. So she has no way of knowing whether he belongs in jail, or is instead innocent of any crimes. Immigration hearings aren’t the same as criminal trials.

Hard working Americans should want their government to follow the rules, and not deport people or put them in jail without following the rules. Because the rules protect the innocent, not just bad guys.

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Yes.

Liberals believe the government should follow the law.

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I don’t think that landed the way you meant it.

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