After all of that the truth comes out. Hegseth thinks it was a political leak. LOL the truth matters. Especially when we keep getting it bent to where you really do not know what the truth is with this administration.
They wanted us to believe that Iran would never be able to rebuild the site for years and now we realize the truth. Another war ?
Probably. But they are blaming Democrats, that is funny. If you believe Iran still has capability and want US to conduct some more attacks, you would have bigger motive to leak it. Trump ran on no endless war, and his base doesnât like these wars. But the markets and economy is ignoring everything and keeps marching ahead⌠we are almost at all time highâs.
John Boltonâs take is the best so far.
I find it Ironic that a guy blaming people for leaking is just coming off a scandal of leaking military secrets.
May be they are forgiving their leaks, because it is out of stupidity and the other leak is malicious.
Maybe or maybe they are just mad because they were caught lying again.
Be nice if they cared about that. Lying does not faze them.
âItâs all in your definition.â Asked for his definition, Scott repeated to reporters: âI think the military did an unbelievable job.â
Does Israel start up offensive operations as soon as the U.S. has refilled its munition storage of air defense missiles?
Iranâs processed uranium still remains as US block buster bomb was not used on Isfahanâs underground storage.
US military did not use the Massive Ordnance Penetrator bomb against the Isfahan site in central Iran. US officials believe Isfahanâs underground structures house nearly 60% of Iranâs enriched uranium stockpile, which Iran would need in order to ever produce a nuclear weapon.
Exactly! Israel and Iran are racing to re-arm. Iran also needs time for redeployment
Apparently not necessary.
Israeli and American strikes appear to have created a major roadblock to Iranâs manufacture of atomic bombs, even if its cache of uranium fuel remains untouched, analysts say.
Thatâs because attacks on one of the sites, in Isfahan, shattered gear that Iran was preparing to use for the transformation of enriched uranium gas into dense metal. That process, known as metallization, is among the last steps in making the explosive core of an atomic bombâŚ
Some early assessments of the war cast the Israeli and American strikes as setting Iranâs nuclear program back only a few months but apparently without specifying which part of its nuclear infrastructure could be quickly rebuilt.
Now, however, nuclear experts say the destruction of Iranâs metallization plants has seemingly ended Tehranâs near-term ability to make a bombâs explosive core. Rebuilding the crucial sites, they add, will most likely take years.
[And lottsa money.]
DB2
âThe United States should have never entered into Obamaâs terrible Iran deal,â Anna Kelly, a White House spokeswoman, said in a statement. In attacking Iranâs nuclear sites, she added, âPresident Trump did what past presidents have only talked about. Iranâs nuclear program is obliterated, a historic ceasefire has been brokered, and the entire world is safer.â
So war was better than a negotiated treaty? I thought he was elected on no more wars but his ego would not allow a treaty he did not negotiate to stand. So he screwed it up so bad we had to go to war to fix it. Oh and it isnât fixed it is just delayed until the next war.
Hang on Cochise. Initially, it was all about Fordow: turned everyone and everything inside the enrichment complex into hamburger, with MOPs. Or, maybe not. Maybe MOPs werenât used. Maybe MOPs couldnât penetrate. Maybe there wasnât anything left inside to chew up?
So, now itâs all about Isfahan. Didnât use MOPs. MOPs couldnât penetrate. But flimsy little cruise missiles did the job. It isnât about the enriched uranium. Itâs all about another step in the process, that was housed in flimsy buildings on the surface, instead of underground, where they would have been safe.
Iâm confused. Sounds like a kid caught in a lie, so changed tracks to another lie.
Steve
Big Oâs treaty would not get TIG a Nobel. TIG blowing everything up, to eliminate the âthreatâ, would, in some minds, be spun as worthy of a Nobel.
Steve
You are assuming that Iran follows its agreements. As an example, from 2013:
Rouhani, on Iranian TV in May, detailed how he broke nuclear pledge
https://www.timesofisrael.com/rouhani-on-iranian-tv-in-may-detailed-how-he-broke-nuclear-pledge/
In a video clip now gaining fresh attention as the international community seeks to assess his credibility, Iranâs President Hassan Rouhani bragged on Iranian state television just four months ago that he and the regime utterly flouted a 2003 agreement with the IAEA in which it promised to suspend all uranium enrichment and certain other nuclear activities.
Rouhani, who was being interviewed by Iranâs state IRIB TV (Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting) on May 27, less than three weeks before he won the June 14 presidential elections, was provoked by the interviewerâs assertion that, as Iranâs chief nuclear negotiator in 2003-5, âeverything was suspendedâ on the nuclear program under his watch.
Smiling but evidently highly irritated by the suggestion, Rouhani called it âa lieâ that only âthe illiterateâ would believe, and said that âwhoever is talking to you in your earpieceâ was feeding false information. He proceeded to detail how Iran, in fact, had flagrantly breached the October 2003 âTehran Declaration,â which he said âwas supposed to outline how everything should be suspended.â
Although Iran issued a joint statement with visiting EU ministers in October 2003 setting out its pledged obligations under the Tehran Declaration, in practice, Rouhani said in the interview, âWe did not let that happen!â
And in 2015, just weeks before Barack Obama signed the JCPOA that was to have kept Iran from building a weapon, and guess where the violations occurred?
With only one month left before a deadline to complete a nuclear deal with Iran, international inspectors have reported that Tehranâs stockpile of nuclear fuel increased about 20 percent over the last 18 months of negotiations, partially undercutting the Obama administrationâs contention that the Iranian program had been âfrozenâ during that period.
But Western officials and experts cannot quite figure out whyâŚ
The 2013 plan for capping the stockpile relied on Iranâs stated plan to build a âconversion plantâ at its sprawling nuclear complex at Isfahan. The plant was intended to turn newly enriched uranium into oxide powder, the first step toward making reactor fuel rods. In other words, while the stockpile would not be reduced, it also should not have grown.
As the Bipartisan Policy Center, a research group in Washington, said in February, âIran has failedâ to do the conversion. As a result, it added, Iranâs stockpile of enriched uranium, compared with when the preliminary accord went into effect, was growing âsignificantly larger.â
DB2
Now, that wouldnât be the plant that TPTB are now claiming was for producing âdense metalâ, instead of reactor fuel rods?
SteveâŚstill confused by the âofficialâ narratives
Israelâs version of truth⌠is just their version. Western media talks non-stop about how Iran is encouraging non-state actors against Israel. But no one talks about Westâs similar actions against Iran or other middle east countries. Imagine Iran kills some Israeli defense officials or scientists to sabotage some of Israeli defense program, the entire West would be calling for Iranâs annihilation. Yet, routinely Israel kills. I no longer trust anyone in this issue. There are no right or wrong. There are only interests for different groups. Even now, I have a cynical view, that US-Iran negotiations however painfully slow, is moving along, was torpedoed by Israelâs attack on Iran.
This is not the first time Israel has done that. If there is something that is more powerful than the bond market, it is israel. It strangleholds entire western hemisphere and plays them like fiddle.
What war I mustâve been asleep.
O is intelligent. But thatâs not whats we gots now.
Hamas and Hezbollah, but the other Arabs face a lot of crap from Iran as well.
Our media is selling you.
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IIRC, use of 14 MOPs was confirmed by the Whitehouse. As to the net benefit, looks like that quickly-discredited intelligence assessment that dared to oppose the âtotal obliterationâ narrative may have legs:
Iran will likely be able to produce enriched uranium âin a matter of monthsâ, IAEA chief says