Control Panel: Attack on Iran

The U.S. attack on Iran, which degraded and possibly destroyed Iran’s nuclear weapons program, is the news which could impact the markets next week.

The Three Unknowns After the U.S. Strike on Iran

by Nicholas Kristof, The New York Times, June 22, 2025

The first uncertainty is how Iran will strike back at the United States. …

Another option would be to seek to close the Strait of Hormuz, fully or partly, by attacking shipping or by laying mines. That could be a blow to the world economy, for one-quarter of the world’s oil passes through the strait… [end quote]

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-israel-conflict-latest-news/card/will-iran-attempt-to-block-the-strait-of-hormuz--dyOkGjRHBV971OSKOAVU

Will Iran Attempt to Block the Strait of Hormuz?

By Costas Paris, The Wall Street Journal, 6/21/2025

The strait is shared between Iran in the north and Oman in the south handles around a quarter of the world’s oil trade with dozens of giant tankers that can move two million barrels in a single shipment crossing through every day after loading up at oil terminals in Iran, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait…

Any disruption at the strait will send oil prices soaring. The waterway at the mouth of the Persian Gulf connects it to the Indian Ocean. It’s 100 miles long and 21 miles wide, making it an easy target for Iranian missiles, helicopters and Revolutionary Guard patrol boats.

Big tanker operators told the Journal they are following developments closely and have no immediate plans to pull their ships from the region. [end quote]

The question for investors today is: will the Macroeconomic and investing sequelae resemble the 1973 OPEC oil embargo? Or will the current degradation of Iran’s military due to recent Israeli strikes, coupled with U.S. energy independence, make the current surgical removal of Iran’s nuclear threat a relative non-issue?

For those who don’t remember…

The embargo was triggered by the Yom Kippur War in October 1973, where Egypt and Syria surprise-attacked Israel followed by Israel’s successful defense. The U.S. provided military aid to Israel, prompting the Arab oil-producing nations to retaliate.

The embargo involved both ceasing oil exports to targeted nations and implementing production cuts. Oil prices quadrupled in a matter of weeks, leading to a global energy crisis. The embargo contributed to high inflation and economic stagnation in the U.S. and other affected countries.

The effect on the stock market is most clearly seen in the Inflation Adjusted S&P 500.

The SPX didn’t fully recover until after 1990.

The U.S. energy situation today, in June 2025, is dramatically different from 1973 when the OPEC oil embargo began, particularly in terms of domestic production, import reliance, and the diversification of energy sources.

In 1973, the U.S. had grown increasingly dependent on foreign oil, with imports reaching about 34% of its total oil consumption. This made the nation highly vulnerable to supply disruptions.

The U.S. has transformed from a highly vulnerable, import-dependent nation in 1973 to an energy-abundant, net-exporting country with a more diversified energy portfolio today. Since 2019, the U.S. has been a net exporter of energy, meaning it produces more energy than it consumes. Oil imports are diversified, with Canada being a major source. Renewable energy sources have seen significant growth. The creation of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve after 1973 provides a crucial buffer against future supply disruptions.

Iran is under sanction so the U.S. doesn’t buy any Iranian oil. The primary destination for Iranian oil is China, which imports the vast majority of Iran’s crude.

I’m no expert on the global energy market but clearly there will be a lot of uncertainty. Oil futures already began to spike on Friday, 6/20/25.

OPEC will be in a difficult position. While some members, particularly Saudi Arabia and the UAE, would likely step up to try and stabilize the market by increasing production, the extent of their ability to do so would depend on the severity of the conflict and whether the Strait of Hormuz is significantly impacted. The overarching goal for OPEC would be to prevent a complete collapse of oil flows and avoid a global economic crisis, while navigating the complex geopolitical landscape within the cartel itself.

Last week (before the attack) the markets have been stable. The Fear & Greed Index is neutral. The trade is neutral, neither risk-on nor risk-off.

The Chicago Fed’s National Financial Conditions Index (NFCI), which provides a comprehensive weekly update on U.S. financial conditions in money markets, debt and equity markets, and the traditional and “shadow” banking systems, is loose.

The Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the second quarter of 2025 was 3.4 percent on June 18, a strong reading.

The Federal Reserve held the fed funds rate constant as expected by the futures market.

The METAR for next week is impossible to predict. The stock market is still in a bubble which may be vulnerable to the “black swan” event of the attack on Iran. Or the markets may decide that Iran can’t do anything to significantly disrupt the economy and shrug it off.

The METAR is a short-term forecast. The impact of the attack will probably take months, if not years, to become evident.

Wendy

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I want to show everyone something.

In March of 2000 we hit a peak of 1553 and then it dropped and didn’t make it back to the peak of 1553 till july of 2007.

Then in October of 2007 we hit a peak of 1576 and didn’t make it back to that peak till March of 2013.

Since then we have had V shaped recovery’s with short recoveries.

So what I am trying to say is the market looks great right now, I do not know if we will every have down periods like 2000 or 2007, it is possible we keep having big V shape recoveries. But if you are retired think about what you will do if we do have another down turn like 2000 or 2007. Those are hard times when you are retired and you see big drops in your portfolio. Just something to think about and try to plan for.

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Maybe. But only if they want all their ships sunk.

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The market is at a historic high, which makes it more fragile. No one truly knows what might trigger its unraveling. But when that comes, it will drop big and long.

A war with Iran could be one of those triggers—with unpredictable and far-reaching consequences.

But this goes beyond market speculation. How much have we, the taxpayers, already spent on this strike and the inevitable chain of actions that follow? What did the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost us in blood and financially? Because the US is so big and powerful- not so much in proportion. But it has not been distributed equally, and many lost a lot, and we’re all paying. For what exactly?

What is the strategic benefit to the U.S. in provoking a war with Iran—an unprovoked conflict, followed by threats of retaliation if Iran dares to respond? It’s like hitting someone and then warning them not to hit back. We know Iran is weak, and even weaker than Russia. And that makes it easier to strike without fear of real consequences. But to what end? Just because we can?

Trump once said he didn’t want to start another war. But he, too, has been overpowered by the deep state and its enablers. He thought he could chart his own path—but he couldn’t. The U.S. continues to be what it has long been: a system where most people have no real say in foreign policy, yet continue to pay the price without question.

Just like the market at its peak, American power is fragile.

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@buynholdisdead what concerns me is that the 1999 dot-com run-up to the 2000 dot-com bust (which I remember well) was similar to the AI run-up now. The stock market was rising 25% a year while the economy was only growing 2.5% per year. I had a bad feeling about that so I sold in 1999.

The 2007 financial crisis was caused by the housing price bubble which was supported by low interest rates after 2001 and peaked in 2006. The Federal Reserve began to normalize the fed funds rate in 2005 by gradually raising it. The bubble began to burst in 2007 and the crisis hit in 2008.

The situation is familiar – I remember it well. I am retired and Social Security pays for my needs. (Not to mention the income from my bond investments.) That’s why I am taking your advice and not risking the majority of my portfolio in stocks.

Of course, I am very risk-averse. Everyone has a different situation and will make different choices.
Wendy

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It feels and smells just like that Wendy but in the early stages, but remember how far and long that went after the irrational exuberance speech by Greenspan? It’s hard to know when this will all pop so I am still fully invested but have my stops set to get me out. It’s important to understand the risk instead of thinking about how much money you can make. That is the problem with most people, they only think of the upside and not the downside.

I live off of my portfolio and my wife’s pension. We could live just off her pension but what fun would that be.

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Israel, US and West thinks their military superiority allows them to do anything. When you have nothing to lose, fighting such an enemy is dangerous. Iran doesn’t need ships to shut down strait of Hormuz. It will turn into fighting houthis. Houthis will spend few thousand dollars, and to hunt them west will be sending $30, $40, $50 M missiles.

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I worry about this also. Hedges are expensive. Staying out of market is expensive. The decline may come swiftly, and it may be violent downslide. Average investors may not be sufficiently prepared to respond.

So you have to hedge, hedge for fat tail events. Most retail investors don’t have access to such instruments.

I am looking for hedging, hope we find something that will cost 1% to 2% of portfolio… but… :slight_smile:

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In a perfect world, my oils would fly, and VOO tank. Then, flip from the oils, to VOO. Then the market gets used to the new normal, big oil fades, while VOO flies. I will be looking at crude futures with interest this evening. Even though the US is mostly energy independent these days, I’m sure we will be paying global prices. I’m starting to pine for my 1998 Civic, that handed me 42mpg, on regular.

But big oil will benefit. “Rant #1” held that the reason a case for invading Iraq was ginned up was to take Iraqi production off line, to tighten supply and increase prices. For some time, I have been countering talk of the oil market being oversupplied with words to the effect “all it takes is an excuse to bomb Kharg Island” With any degree of “luck” (from big oil’s perspective) the US regime will accuse the Iraqi regime of failing to protect the US troops in country, and the Iraqi terminal at Basra will be attacked too, as “punishment”. Our “good buddy” MBS will be pleased, too.

Purity. The “news” has already been reporting the US regime is sending out the word to look for “Iranian sleeper cells” in the US. Every middle eastern Muslim will be given the stink-eye, just like every Hispanic is, these days. We have already seen pro-Pal demonstrators thrown in prison, for their speech. We have already seen a partial return of the Muslim ban.

/end hyper-cynic mode

Steve

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I can only say I am relieved. JD Vance said today we are not at war with Iran, we are at war with their nuclear plants. So we really have nothing to worry about at all.

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Yeah. That would be like saying “we don’t have a problem with the people of Iran, who want to be free. our problem is with the regime that rules the country”. yeah…right…all Iran needs to do is unconditionally surrender, just like TIG said. How many years did the US bomb North Vietnam, without them surrendering?

Steve

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China might want to play?

Short answer, I’m watching what China does… And REEs are (again) in play.

Why would China get involved?
1 China reportedly gets 70% of Iran’s oil, cheap, due to the US/West sanctions on Iran.

2 China n Iran were labeled Axis of Evil mates by a former administration.
(Including Russia n PRNK.)

Ie, China views this as a conflict of interest.

China has already shown its REE card, shutting off REE exports to US n EU.
Some say there was a recent “agreement” between US n China WRT REEs, that China would loosen its export restrictions to the US.

EU n China are haggling over REEs, too.

ChatGPT:
“As of the most recent data (2023–2024), China mines approximately 60% to 70% of the world’s rare earth elements (REEs).”

"As of 2023–2024, China processes approximately 85% to 90% of the world’s rare earth elements (REEs)—even though it produces around 69% of the raw REE ore.

REEs are important to US, West, EU, Israel macro n micro economies.

Back in 2010, I owned MolyCorp, Lynas, Ucore… REE mining n processing in US (California, AK), CAnada, Malaysia n AU.
Our fearless L&Ss swore they would not let China use “unfair business practices” to take over REEs.
Our leadership promptly folded, in an abject failure of leadership. (Yes, I lost a small amount of $. It informs my opinion of Obama.)
The EU leadership folded even harder, allowing China to control REEs, and Russia to control energy.

I was incredulous at the lack of foresight n leadership.

I expect China to wield it’s REE card, again.

:magnet::compass::man_technologist:t2:
ralph

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Russia is saying now they will supply nuclear war heads to Iran…

:flushed_face:

US, West thinks myopically. They are dancing to the tunes of Israel. I am sure someone at pentagon has a game theory for the following.

  • Libya was destroyed with a false pretense of nuclear weapons
  • Iraq, saddam was destroyed with a false pretense of nuclear weapons
  • Today Iran, while US NSA says Iran has no credible way to make nuclear weapons, yet Israel, and US unilaterally attacked them.
  • West continues to turn blind eye towards israel having nukes without being part of NPT regime
  • West mostly ignores North Korea, because they have nukes.

If I am not part of western alliance, my preference is not to develop nuclear weapons. IT takes time and west will attack you in the interim. Simply acquire them. Just buy it in open market. What will $1, $2, $5, $10 billion do to Russia or North Korea or even Pakistan? Saudi’s have in the past tried to acquire from Pakistan. But they were very open about it. Next time, when Russia or North Korea sells it, they will know to keep it quiet.

This unipolar world is becoming wild wild west. EIther you have nukes or you don’t. Once you buy you have the security blanket. So everyone should arm themselves. This is where west is leading the world to. This process will be chaotic. That’s the true long-term tail event.

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Iran does not appear to be ready to lay down and surrender.

Meanwhile, the US has troops staked out as bait in Iraq. There are Iran-aligned militias in Iraq, that have not been degraded, like the militias on Israel’s borders.

Steve

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Bitcoin isn’t having a fun day today. Monday should be interesting.

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Earnings are also at an all time high. Both are responding to inflation.

Will earnings continue to grow? I say yes in many cases but must be selective.

The “black swan” event would have been Iran really possessed nuclear capabilities and the attack triggers a radiation leak. Of course US knows Iran had no weapons or weapon grade materials, and would not result in radiation, hence attacked.

If we can reasonably predict then it is not 'black swan" event but just an event with a low probability.

So, if China has any leverage with Iran they would talk them out of any Hormuz action.

DB2

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