Musk thinks there is fraud in Social Security

There is absolutely no way just looking at payments will uncover fraud. Let’s take one example of Elon Musk finding out that AlphaWolf was paid his Social Security of $100 on December 15, 2024. What does that tell Elon? Absolutely nothing. There is nothing in the Treasury’s payment system that proves whether I exist, how much I’m supposed to receive, or even if I’m a real Wolf.

But wait! How do we know the Treasury was supposed to send AlphaWolf $100 on December 15, 2024? Easy. The SSA sent the list to Treasury with the proper approvals from the SSA because it is the SSA’s responsibility to ensure that proper payments are made to the right Wolf in the correct amount and on the proper date. It is the Treasury’s responsibility to make the payment based on SSA’s authorization. Period. So even if the Elon checked the file that SSA sent to Treasury, it wouldn’t tell him Jack.

If Elon thinks there is SS fraud (maybe Wolf is still cashing in grandma Wolf’s SS because when she died, instead of reporting her death, Wolf stuffed her in his freezer) or maybe Wolf should only be getting $75 because SSA made an error in calculating my SS amount, Elon will need to look at a lot of detail in the SSA files to uncover the fraud.

So the real question is, why does Elon want access to the Treasury payment system? Because there is no way to find fraud JUST by having access to the Treasury payment system EVEN IF the Treasury personnel have been intentionally making fraudulent payments! You would still need another system (SSA, US Aid, Medicaid, etc) to prove the payments were fraudulent.

So Elon’s goal in getting access to the Treasury payment system has nothing to do with finding waste. You need the system that generated the authorization for payment (or that didn’t authorize payment in the case of fraudulent payments) to discover fraud.

So what is Elon really up to?

IMNSHO, nothing good.

12 Likes

Musk started a business as a South African on a student visa and apparently never attended a class.

intercst

4 Likes

Elon is going to fix this ! Left is throwing temper tantrums.

1 Like

Whistle up an AI app to scan all the names of people receiving benefits. Sort out the names, like Juan, and Hussain, that don’t sound white, thereby establishing probable cause (according to the “values” of the people running the program) that their claims are fraudulent. Send them letters that their benefit payments are stopped, until they prove they are citizens, entitled to benefit. Once all the non-white people have been investigated, go after the white people who don’t toe the line: use the same AI app to sift through the names and addresses, and correlate them with member and donor lists of organizations that “hate America”, according to the “values” of the people running the program.

Steve

Hmmm… Let’s try this. Who here thinks “Jurasz” is a Mexican name, or a Polish name? Now you’re making me worried Steve…

The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name JURASZ is 61.0% White, 19.4% Hispanic origin, 13.5% Black, 4.6% Asian or Pacific Islander, 1.4% Two or More Races, and 0.2% American Indian or Alaskan Native. These figures should be considered only as a rough estimate. The purpose of this graph is to compare the name’s specific race and Hispanic origin distribution to the distribution in the general population of the US.

So, on the first pass, you would probably be classified as “probably white”.

Steve

3 Likes

So… you got nothing.

Except your opinions.

Here’s what Leo DaVinci said:

{"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions."
Share quote

According to Leonardo, our own beliefs are often responsible for guiding us down the wrong path. The great thinker thought important decisions should be based on scientific methods rather than on gut feelings.}

Let me summarize:
You got nothing except your opinions and logical errors and fallacies and attacks.

But I do admire your ability to red herring, and misdirect threads.
You ARE a MASTER!

:clown_face::circus_tent:
ralph

It’s funny how people, can listen to the same thing, and then come to two different conclusions. Elon’s brother said twice that they were illegal.

But I see this all the time with people that are weak minded or the narrative doesn’t fit what they want to believe. Then they turn around and try to say “Well he didn’t mean that” He did, he said it twice. Or “You misunderstood” English is my first language and I am fluent in it. So when people try to snow me, or lie to me. Then yes, it isn’t up for debate. You heard, although maybe you have some disability and can not understand or hear it completely? That is exactly what his brother said. He should know, He was there.

1 Like

Everything but the colonscopies. You don’t want to go there.

Ahh but it does give him your address and social security number doesn’t it? Along with his gang of high school kids.

1 Like

Ah, that is another avenue of inquiry. Have the app correlate birth date with date of issuance of the SSN. Treat anyone who did not have an SSN until after they were 16 as suspect. I have seen enough movies where a scammer finds a headstone of someone who died as a child. Obtains a birth certificate under than name, to steal that person’s identity, then obtains an SSN, driver’s license, and all the rest, 20-30 years after the birth of the person whose identity he stole.

Steve

Dang Steve I don’t think I got my first real job where I needed a social security number until after I was 16. The farmers didn’t require it for you to buck bales and move irrigation lines. Does that make me an illegal? Please stop posting Steve I am starting to question which border they are going to drop me over.

Well??

My mom got an SSN card for me when I was a wee lad. I don’t know when. She gave me the card years after she had obtained it.

Steve

1 Like

You dang Communists always trusting the government with a government id.

They didn’t, because they were ordered to do differently.

Now let’s all sit back and think about this for a minute. We all know now that he came here illegally, he has been working in the States, just as anyone who picks lettuce or tomatoes have been. Illegally. What happens to him when Trump and him have a falling out? Not if but when.

A man works a job
Toiling night and day forever
He is illegal

What else can you guys do ?

2 Likes

We can get Antifa to storm the capital. That should make you pucker.

4 Likes

I think mom got than SS card for me, when she opened a bank account in my name, so the interest would not go on her taxes. I remember going into the bank myself, in my late teens or early 20s, to make a deposit or withdrawal. The teller found they did not have a signature card for me. There was a note in the file that there was no signature card because I was only 5 or 6 when the account was opened.

Well, the agenda is to divide the population into “real Americans”, and everything else. In typical Welchist fashion, I would expect them to start at the bottom, with those easiest to discern as “not American”. It will be years of roundups and mass deportations before they get down to which parts of white, Christian, Europe, make suitable people, and which don’t…like the immigration law from the 1920s, that split off southern and eastern Europeans, from the more desirable folks.

Steve…WASP…maternal grandfather had noticeably Saxon feet: triple E width

1 Like

Still waiting for Mexico to pay for “the wall” (it fell down).

Still no statement showing how tariffs are paid by China, etc on US tariffs.

How is that health care plan that was announced to be “low cost AND totally comprehensive in coverage” in 2-3 weeks, or was that months? Or millennia? Or eons? Or…??? Or do you certify alzheimer’s/senility by the entire current administration because they can’t remember all their broken promises? LOTS more can be posted, but posting all 30+k lies would likely use up all the ink in your monitor.

4 Likes