DB2
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Thanks Bob, as I would have missed this until tomorrow (I already had scanned the evening news from ME).
Potentially a real turning point of some historic and strategic importance.
david fb
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So many levels that multi-level chess has fewer moving parts.
The Saudis want nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood. Hamas.
That is just one level but it is the most direct. It is a crack in the darkness.
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I donât like to join these threads but a bit of history might clear the air. Many Arabs donât like the Palestinians. Over half a century ago Jordan had a civil war which expelled the Palestinians from Jordan.
Hussein hesitated to oust them from the country, but continued PLO activities in Jordan culminated in the Dawsonâs Field hijackings of 6 September 1970, when the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) seized three civilian passenger flights and forced their landing in the Jordanian city of Zarqa, where they took foreign nationals as hostages and blew up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw and ordered the Jordanian Army to take action.[10]
The Captain
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Abraham Accords Anniversary Sept. 15
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/abraham-accords-peace-treaties-trump/2024/09/13/id/1180241/
Sunday, Sept. 15, marks the fourth anniversary of the signing of the accordsâŠSince the war broke out, Israelâs ministers of economy, energy, and strategic affairs all made public visits to the UAE and met with their colleagues. The IDF Chief of Staff participated in a summit in Bahrain, while a delegation of Israeli rabbis visited MoroccoâŠ
The Technology and Innovation Institute of the United Arab Emirates announced the establishment of an artificial intelligence center at the Technion in Haifa, while the Moroccan government signed a billion-dollar satellite deal with the Israeli Aerospace IndustryâŠ
Trade between Israel and the Abraham Accords countries continues to increase significantly. According to a report recently published by the Abraham Accords Peace Institute: In the first half of 2024, there was a 7% increase in trade between Israel and the UAE, a 709% increase in trade between Israel and Bahrain, a 64% increase in trade between Israel and Morocco, and a 53% increase in trade between Israel and EgyptâŠ
In the recent past, European companies used to send their cargoes of goods to the Gulf countries through the port of Beirut. These goods arrived by boat via the Mediterranean Sea and were loaded in the port of Beirut on trucks that took them from Lebanon through Syria to the Gulf countriesâŠThe preferred alternate route was from Egypt through the Suez Canal and the Red Sea to the Gulf. But in recent months, even this trade route has become problematicâŠAnd so, the land route through Israel became the safest trade route between Europe and Asia. What was impossible before the Abraham Accords because of the boycott in the Arab world against Israel, became the preferred and most worthwhile route.
DB2
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Israel is an Arab country.
Let that sink in.
The Sephardics are Arab some 55% of the population.
The Palestinian Israeli Citizens are 19% of the population.
My Y Chromosome is probably from somewhere in the Levant. The Askenazi have grown light but usually are Arab.
The Arabs were very often Jewish before becoming Muslim. Jews wrote the Quran.
The Quran is the same as the Old and New Testaments. It is poetry anew from a different set of paradigms. But it is the same story in many senses.
The Muslim world needs a separation of church and state. No one elseâs is to blame for the 5 wars.
The Gaza war is a war to end Israel. Ridiculous but still bloody enough that Hamas has to be put to bed. The PLA has not decided the terms of their own country instead holding out for no Israel.
The Palestinian Israeli Citizens from day one had no problems have a Jew as a neighbor. I call that decency. I call digging tunnels all day by robbing your nation garbage.
Israel is a Semitic country, just like countries inhabited by Arabs. Iran is not a Semitic country. 
Semitic
adjective
- Relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
- Relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.
The Dictionary
Salam Alaikum - Shalom Aleichem
The Captain
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Again Israel is an Arab country.
Wrong pew as the punchline goes in the joke on Baptists guys meeting at a Baptist convention.
The difference between Muslim Arabs and Jewish Arabs is established education. In the Middle East universities were not supported by the states. Decent upper level education mostly disappeared in the Middle East. The Ashkenazis in Europe gained in the last four or five generations access to government supported education systems.
Along with religion that is conflated as we are not Arab. That is not true.
What is interesting the Arab countries aligned with Israel want the liberal tidings Israel brings. Those countries are rejecting the âWARRINGâ Palestinians. The Jordanian and Israeli Palestinians are not being rejected by those countries.
Those countries want much more especially after the oil is not used as much.
Those countries are edging into a separation of church and state.
The Muslim Brotherhood is a direct threat to them. Hamas is a splinter group of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Regardless of guarded support for the Gazans, Israel is being cheered on by many Muslim nations. Part of that is a competition with Iran and Russia. Part of that is being tired of how badly the Gazans and PLA behave. We keep hearing bad Israeli policies. It is not one sided at all.
Repeating something does not make it true despite Joseph Goebbelsâs opinion to the contrary. Neither do long winded replys.
The Captain
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Saying something does not make it sensical.