OT:Is Israel a Tool of the USA Rather Than the Perception That the US is a Tool of Israel?

The neo-cons have won again.
Any bets on the outcome of this regime change effort?
Judging from past execution-Outlook not good.

“Decided not to contest the entry”?
I’m not sure Iran knew about it until it was over.

At any rate, it is estimated that Iran has/had thousands of centrifuges. When would they have moved them? How many weeks advance notice did they have of being bombed?

DB2

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You are not proposing a viable alternative.

It’s just my opinion. I think meeting secretely with Assad is dirtbag behavior. Questioning little girls about their account regarding how they were burned and their parents were killed is also dirtbag behavior.

Oh, and she’s in a cult -

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Just for the halibut:

-is the Iranian regime demonstrably nuttier than North Korea’s?

-is the Iranian regime demonstrably more unstable than Pakistan’s?

Just for the halibut.

Steve

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Having your nuclear weapons sites bombed is a foreseeable result of sending missiles into Israel. They could have quietly been moving them to different sites for months. Or setting up any new replacement centrifuges at new sites.

—Peter

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Maybe, but I’d say not likely given the demonstrable skill that the Mossad has shown.

DB2

I wish we had stopped Pakistan. I think that is equally serious to stopping Iran.

I think the Chinese made a big mistake not stopping NK.

We do not fully understand the problems between Pakistan and India. The motives towards a nuclear war are different from the US Russia who both figured out that they could not colonize the other.

NK is not really fending us off. They are preparing for the day they need to fend China off.

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Even better, why not stop the Soviets and Chinese?

Steve

Different day

Plus they are world powers

So how many sites were bombed?

We know that TIG at Mar a Lago had classified Iran attack plans stored in unsecure locations. He was even recorded displaying the plans to unauthorized individuals. The gross lack of security was widely reported, including photographs and specific locations of classified documents in unsecured areas. It is a reasonable assumption that Iran was able to obtain details of those plans.

It is a reasonable assumption that Iran knew what we knew about their nuclear facilities, at least as of 2021, and made arrangements to disperse and disguise their facilities going forwards.

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What blows me away is people were against giving weapons and money to Ukraine to fight off an invader. But the same people have no problem putting American troops in harms way along with weapons and money to invade another country.

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I imagine they started moving what could be move shortly after the Israel attack 5 days ago.

I don’t believe it was secret as everyone knew about it.
And our nation should always attempt diplomatic means before military adventure.
As I remember Vance, Cyrus, resigned because of Jimmy Carter’s secret Iran rescue attempt. His resignation was before the operation took place. And not because he thought the attempt would fail. It was because had him lie to allies for operational secrecracy.

Oh I imagine there are some people that were against both propositions.

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Me too. I mean, HUH!? What’s with that?!!

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Sure but only one side won.

Sure war always seems to win and is fully backed by the Main Stream Media.

Well we all know why they were able to keep it quiet. Someone was left out of the loop.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m*a*g*a-takes-victory-lap-hegseth-160836449.html

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