"Spider-Man" theatrical winding down

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I didn’t think it would reach this domestic level, but since the “Spider-Man” film is now at $797 million domestically, I’m going to assume by next week at this time it will achieve $800 million. And during the SARS-CoV-2 cycle. Amazing.

Worldwide the movie is at $1.88 billion. I don’t see $2 billion, but that would have been cool.

Guess the physical release is for April 12. I believe one can purchase a digital copy on iTunes, but not rent it. And I believe it may only be on iTunes right now, may be wrong about that, but that’s what a site says anyway. I wish we knew exactly how many digital units are sold on these tentpoles, as well as how many rentals are purchased. That deficit of information has always bugged me…but perhaps the April 12 date will maximize the digital engagement…

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The thing I have found interesting is the fact that some Disney films have been released on Disney+ and Netflicks at the same time.

Is this a clever way to spread the revenue stream or are they cannibalising the subscribers from one service to feed the other service?

OTFoolish

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Hi, OTFoolish.

First, I should remind all that Spider-Man is not a Disney release, but a Sony/Columbia Pictures release under license from Marvel.

Second, what Disney+ movies have you seen concurrently on Netflix? I am not aware of that.

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Indeed, “Spider-Man” is from Sony, but there is a profit-participation component plus merch opportunity, so I sort-of think of this as related to us (and if I recall correctly, DIS was in for 25% of the budget and therefore 25% of the profit, which is larger than those straight licensing deals of the past). In addition, I think this is just a good omen for DIS tentpoles this year…what’s the next one, that “Strange” movie, correct? (Just checked - that’s in May, thought it might have been this month or April) So, I am going to assume “Spider-Man” is a great commercial for that one – interestingly, though, seems like these Christmas releases have a better chance of scoring really big than some of the summer ones. One has to wonder how “Avatar” will do this year given “S-Man”.

OTF, I too am interested in what films are on both, because that would be notable to me in terms of strategy. If you mean features that are older, that would perhaps make immediate sense, as older content could be used to power D+ and make some extra money at the same time on another platform (just thinking of a hypothetical example, if the old DIS comedy “What About Bob” was on D+ and H-Max)…I think as content ages, it can be ported to other platforms since its use as driving subscriptions probably fades over time.

However, I have seen this: a Fox film on H-Max and Hulu at the same time. I believe “Nightmare Alley” was on both at one point. I want to say “French Dispatch” may have been as well, but I may be wrong about that. I’ve read that was because of pre-existing contracts DIS had to honor post-acquisition. I guess there may have been a couple other films that did the dual thing as well.

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The correct shared releases were between DirecTV and Disney+ and included West Side Story and Encanto.

I am looking for Encanto to score some Oscars as we have already watched it a couple of times and the music alone is worth a viewing.

Walt

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Unfortunately for Encanto, the one song that seems to have blown up the music streaming services wasn’t recommended for Best Song: We Don’t Talk About Bruno. In hindsight, that was a real failure of vision for the company.

Still, Dos Oruguitas (Two Caterpillars) is a good song and will hopefully serve as a proxy for Bruno. My hope is that Bruno will lift up Encanto’s Original Score nomination, though technically, the score isn’t supposed to be the same as the songs.

Disney has 2 of the nominees for best animated picture, and as much as I enjoyed Encanto, I really enjoyed Raya And The Last Dragon.

Traditionally, however, outside of the song and best animated feature categories, Disney has not done well at the Oscars. The hope is that 20th Studios Searchlight, the art film side of 20th Century Studios, will lift Disney’s prospects.

I believe West Side Story is on HBO Max, not DirectTV, though it is also available to rent on a number of platforms. This is apparently due to a streaming agreement between 20th Century Studios and HBO. I don’t know the details, but I expect there was a prior arrangement with 20th Century Fox that Disney inherited.

As for Encanto, I don’t see anything about it being released on DirectTV. I think what you are seeing there is the PPV rental fee, not a programming rotation or on-demand availability.

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Yep, definitely both West Side Story and Encanto available to rent, for $5.99/2 days each, on DirecTV or to view on Disney+ as part of the usual Disney service.

Seeing we have DirecTv and a Disney+ subscription guess what we will be using.

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